Ben and David reminisce about growing up watching Season 12 of Doctor Who. David talks about how Who met his sci-fi fix and seemed like a natural progression from the 1977 movie: Star Wars. Ben recalls playing in motorway construction sites and school hallways battling Daleks and explains how Sontarans were a lot like teachers. Opening music is "Sarah Pursued" composed by Dudley Simpson and the later realized by Heathcliff Blair. Closing music is from Carey Blyton's score for The Revenge of the Cybermen. We recorded this episode on 6 June 2020.