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In this episode of YourForest, Matthew Kristoff and Dr. Jennifer Grenz discuss the necessity of decolonizing land management by being "rooted in truth" - acknowledging the historical and ongoing legacies of colonialism that shape current ecological systems. Dr. Grenz, an Nlaka'pamux woman and the Founding Director of the Indigenous Ecology Lab at UBC, advocates for "Two-Eyed Seeing": braiding Indigenous knowledge and Western science to create a stronger, more resilient approach to stewarding our landscapes. The conversation explores how understanding this history is crucial for developing human-centric and effective solutions to environmental challenges.
π Key Points π
π Decolonization is simply acknowledging the full, true history and colonial legacies that impact current land systems.
π Combine Indigenous knowledge and Western science for a more resilient, complete ecosystem understanding.
π Rethink static concepts of native species and acknowledge the historical human role in shaping ecology.
π Prioritize the wisdom and values of relationships to the land and to each other over complex, bureaucratic, knowledge-based systems.
π¬ Quotes π¬
[00:20:28]Dr. Jennifer Grenz: βI just want to work in a way that's congruent with what's on my heart, and I just really don't care what other people think anymore. I think that's also why my lab is structured the way it is. We work entirely in service to indigenous communities. So they're leading the question there, and I'll bring all the scientific tools in. I want to get as much data for them because that's an important knowledge translation exercise. We're gonna use it and analyze it in a different way, or we're going to ask different questions. We're along for their ride and supporting whatever it is that they want for outcomes.β
[00:39:50] Dr. Jennifer Grenz: βWe can't have reciprocity or anything until we're really grounded in the truth of what it is that we're trying to do. If we were more grounded in truth about what we were trying to do and not try to make one thing another, then we can really talk about what reciprocity looks like in those contexts.β
β Takeaways with Complete Timestamps β
[00:00:00] Defining Decolonization as "Working in Truth"
[00:03:30] The Core Concept of Medicine Wheel for the Planet
[00:07:16] Dr. Grenz's Personal Connection to Land
[00:11:27] Challenging the Static Idea of Plant Nativeness
[00:17:19] Rejecting Objectivity to Work from the Heart.
[00:23:34] The Practice of Talking to the Plants.
[00:28:27] Humility and Action in Reciprocity
[00:44:45] Colonialism as an Ongoing System
[01:01:15] Centering the People of the Land
[01:17:59] Planting Seeds for Change
[01:27:42] Relationship as a Key Guardrail for the Future
Follow the guest on:
π Dr. Jennifer Grenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengrenz/
π Medicine Wheel for the Planet: https://www.jennifergrenz.com
π Indigenous Ecology Lab: https://www.indigenousecology.com/
Sponsors
π West Fraser: https://www.westfraser.com/
π GreenLink Forestry Inc.:https://greenlinkforestry.com/
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In this episode of YourForest, Matthew Kristoff and Dr. Jennifer Grenz discuss the necessity of decolonizing land management by being "rooted in truth" - acknowledging the historical and ongoing legacies of colonialism that shape current ecological systems. Dr. Grenz, an Nlaka'pamux woman and the Founding Director of the Indigenous Ecology Lab at UBC, advocates for "Two-Eyed Seeing": braiding Indigenous knowledge and Western science to create a stronger, more resilient approach to stewarding our landscapes. The conversation explores how understanding this history is crucial for developing human-centric and effective solutions to environmental challenges.
π Key Points π
π Decolonization is simply acknowledging the full, true history and colonial legacies that impact current land systems.
π Combine Indigenous knowledge and Western science for a more resilient, complete ecosystem understanding.
π Rethink static concepts of native species and acknowledge the historical human role in shaping ecology.
π Prioritize the wisdom and values of relationships to the land and to each other over complex, bureaucratic, knowledge-based systems.
π¬ Quotes π¬
[00:20:28]Dr. Jennifer Grenz: βI just want to work in a way that's congruent with what's on my heart, and I just really don't care what other people think anymore. I think that's also why my lab is structured the way it is. We work entirely in service to indigenous communities. So they're leading the question there, and I'll bring all the scientific tools in. I want to get as much data for them because that's an important knowledge translation exercise. We're gonna use it and analyze it in a different way, or we're going to ask different questions. We're along for their ride and supporting whatever it is that they want for outcomes.β
[00:39:50] Dr. Jennifer Grenz: βWe can't have reciprocity or anything until we're really grounded in the truth of what it is that we're trying to do. If we were more grounded in truth about what we were trying to do and not try to make one thing another, then we can really talk about what reciprocity looks like in those contexts.β
β Takeaways with Complete Timestamps β
[00:00:00] Defining Decolonization as "Working in Truth"
[00:03:30] The Core Concept of Medicine Wheel for the Planet
[00:07:16] Dr. Grenz's Personal Connection to Land
[00:11:27] Challenging the Static Idea of Plant Nativeness
[00:17:19] Rejecting Objectivity to Work from the Heart.
[00:23:34] The Practice of Talking to the Plants.
[00:28:27] Humility and Action in Reciprocity
[00:44:45] Colonialism as an Ongoing System
[01:01:15] Centering the People of the Land
[01:17:59] Planting Seeds for Change
[01:27:42] Relationship as a Key Guardrail for the Future
Follow the guest on:
π Dr. Jennifer Grenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengrenz/
π Medicine Wheel for the Planet: https://www.jennifergrenz.com
π Indigenous Ecology Lab: https://www.indigenousecology.com/
Sponsors
π West Fraser: https://www.westfraser.com/
π GreenLink Forestry Inc.:https://greenlinkforestry.com/
Follow YourForest Podcast on:
π Website: https://yourforestpodcast.com/
π YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@yourforestpodcast7324
π Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yourforestpodcast
π Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yourforestpodcast/
π LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/yourforestpodcast/
π Twitter: https://x.com/yourforestpdcst/
π Email: [email protected]
If you liked this podcast, please rate and review it on your favourite platform! π

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