An examination of the strange relationship and power dynamics between Kelly Cochran and Detective Ogden, reveals new patterns in Kelly's stories and behaviors. Plus, a cumulative overview of what we've learned about Kelly, helps construct an MO and timeline of her crimes.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Becca Cline.
Tip by Olivia.

Music by William Hellfire, Chris Zabriskie, Lee Rosevere, and Odetta Hartman.