Carl Sagan's apple-pie insight becomes a launchpad for a sweeping journey from kitchens to cosmos, as Raghunath and Kaustubha explore why nothing we "create" is truly from scratch, why everything we touch is on loan, and how embracing our smallness opens the door to spiritual freedom. From the caves and rivers of Rishikesh to the wheel of saṁsāra and Lord Brahma's realization of Kṛṣṇa's supremacy, this episode dismantles the illusion of independence and invites us into a more grounded—and liberating—vision of reality.

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