This episode we are joined by the wonderful Steven B of the fantastic New to Who podcast and talk about Tom Baker's time on Doctor Who and Steven's memories growing up watching him on Australian Broadcasting Corporation television to the Curator cameo in the 50th anniversary special. Opening music is from Dudley Simpson's score for The Android Invasion. Closing is from Paddy Kingsland's score for Logooplis. We recorded this episode on 19 September 2020.