Paul talks with Fred Nathan of Think New Mexico about some of his organization's priorities during the 2020 session. The group's focus was on retirement security and, while one of their priorities did make it into law, two of them (including reduction or elimination) of Social Security taxes, did not get adopted. Paul and Fred discuss the politics, policy, and history of Social Security taxes and what he sees happening next. Finally, they discuss the broken capital outlay process in New Mexico.