Tune in for a deep conversation about creativity, psychology, and artistic growth!

What does true freedom really look like in creative expression? In this episode of Jung at Harp, Deborah Henson-Conant and Kathleen Wiley explore the idea of “Freedom From and Freedom To”—what it means to break free from inner limitations and move toward deeper self-expression. They examine how patterns, rhythm, autonomy, and creative structure help artists and individuals find freedom through boundaries rather than in their absence.

The episode dives into how vamps (repeating musical patterns), personal rhythms, and safe environments allow creative flow and improvisation. Through music, metaphor, and personal story, the conversation highlights how embracing limitations and knowing ourselves leads to transformation.

Whether you're a musician, artist, or simply navigating life changes, this episode offers insight into how freedom isn’t just about escape—it’s about embodying your true nature.

Each episode in this series reflects one of the seven principles in Deborah’s Strings of Passion framework: Impulse, Structure, Character, Roles, Practice(s), Deconstruction, and Lift-Off.

Disclaimer: “There may be minor audio dropouts in this episode, but the conversation is clear, thoughtful, and inspiring.”