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Lee and Simon have stories of spring before a brief chat about entertaining the possibility of being wrong.

Some other details from the episode: Lee and Jefrey saw a seal (eating a fish); scroggin; supermarkets in the UK and class; swans; woman jogging; deer; Simon's bird feeder; anxious Blue Tits; Lee's biodiverse garden; Lee interviewing PhD students; Lee's selfie-taking abilities; Falmouth University (FU); uck you; Lee being delightfully photogenic; Daniel Dennett, being wrong and being specators or participants; philosophical zombies and consiousness; qualia; Kevin Bacon.

Get in touch with Lee and Simon at [email protected].

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