Garry Talks

#176 Wellth Talks - Life After the Paycheck


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In this episode of "Wellth Talks," hosts Garry Kelly and Niall Leyden speak with Dan Haylett, financial planner and host of "Humans Versus Retirement." The discussion explores the emotional and behavioral challenges of retirement, emphasising that it’s more than just a financial milestone. Dan highlights the need for purpose, structure, and intentional planning before and after leaving work. The conversation covers redefining identity, setting boundaries, and the importance of preparing for the psychological shifts retirement brings, offering practical insights for creating a fulfilling post-work life.

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GK Media
https://www.gkmedia.ie

Dan Haylett

https://www.humansvsretirement.com

The Retirement You Didn't See coming (book)

https://www.humansvsretirement.com/book

Humans vs Retirement (Podcast)

https://www.humansvsretirement.com/podcast-1 

Atlantic Wealth Managementhttps://atlanticwm.ie

Disclaimer: Niall Leyden is the Founder of Atlantic Wealth Management Limited, a firm that is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland to advise on and arrange a range of financial products. Please note that Niall’s comments in this podcast are made in a personal capacity and are not recommendations or financial advice and do not form part of Atlantic Wealth Management Limited’s regulated activity.


Podcast Introduction (00:00:00)
GK Media and Wellth Talks podcast introduction, hosts and guest Dan Haylett introduced.

Shifting the Retirement Conversation (00:01:09)

Dan’s approach: moving beyond spreadsheets to focus on the emotional and behavioral journey of retirement.

The Origins and Evolution of Retirement (00:02:47)

Retirement as a man-made concept, its industrial roots, and how the mindset needs to shift today.

Identity, Purpose, and the Emotional Impact of Retirement (00:05:23)

How work provides identity and purpose, and the emotional challenges of leaving work behind.

From Product to Purpose in Financial Planning (00:08:19)

The importance of focusing on meaning and purpose, not just financial products, in retirement planning.

Retirement as a Psychological Event (00:12:11)

Retirement is more than a financial event; it’s a psychological and emotional transition.

When to Start Planning for Retirement (00:15:10)

The “Fragile Decade”: why planning should start five years before and after retirement.

The Midlife Crisis at 75 and Healthy Life Expectancy (00:17:50)

Why age 75 is a key milestone, the difference between life expectancy and healthy life expectancy.

The Retirement Hangover: First 12-24 Months (00:27:04)

The emotional shock and adjustment period after retiring, and the struggle to find new purpose.

Structure, Meaning, and the Myth of Freedom (00:31:08)

Why most people crave structure and meaning, not just freedom, in retirement.

Grandparenting and Setting Boundaries (00:33:17)

The realities of caring for grandchildren in retirement and the importance of setting personal boundaries.

The Value of Small Things and Closing Thoughts (00:37:01)

Reflecting on the simple joys of life, gratitude, and an invitation for future discussions.

Podcast Outro (00:39:37)

Closing remarks and end of the episode.

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