This week's episode is a deep heart dive into humanness, being sparks of energy, and so much more. It's nearly impossible to put into words properly. Our special guest, Shannon Collier, whose work experience spans everything from birth doula to chaplain, walks us through a deeper understanding of spirituality - as separate from religion - and how to be in this human experience. Shannon brings a heart-centered perspective and incredible curiosity to the discussion.

To connect with Shannon, find her on Instagram at @shannonm.collier; let her know this conversation made a difference!

Here are some books that Shannon recommends:

The First Three Minutes by Steven Weinberg

Stages of Faith: The Psychology of Human Development and the Quest for Meaning by James W. Fowler

Cycles of Time by Roger Penrose

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