Things Not Seen Podcast

#1804 - Learning to Listen: Joel Hamernick


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Joel Hamernick moved with his family to a poor neighborhood in south Chicago with a lot of big ideas about how he could make things better. Over time, his neighbors taught him how to actually make a difference. This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.

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