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How can leaders in the church accompany migrants and refugees? Fr. James Martin, S.J., speaks with Bishop Michael Pham about how his background as a refugee has led him to accompany migrants today.
Bishop Pham fled Vietnam in 1980 with his older sister and a younger brother, arriving first at a refugee camp in Malaysia, before being sponsored a year later by an American family and relocating to Minnesota. He graduated from San Diego State University with a bachelor’s and started a master’s degree in aerospace engineering before shifting his course and pursuing the priesthood. Pope Francis appointed him as auxiliary bishop of San Diego in 2023. In 2025, Pope Leo XIV named him the seventh bishop of San Diego, making him the nation’s first Vietnamese-American diocesan bishop. Since then he has been a leader among U.S. bishops in advocating for migrants and refugees.
Together, Bishop Pham and Fr. Martin discuss:
His childhood in Vietnam and escaping conflict as a refugee
How Bishop Pham supports migrants today
How prayers and sacraments can sustain us while helping vulnerable communities
Chapters:
0:00 A church that walks with migrants
4:24 Bishop Pham’s story of fleeing Vietnam as a child
17:19 Separated from his family at a refugee camp
18:19 Prayer strengthened his family’s faith in hardship
22:55 Discerning the priesthood
31:18 Bishop Pham’s work with migrants today
39:39 The church’s response to migration centers on human dignity
42:00 Remember to celebrate the small blessings
45:30 Audience Question: How can prayer and sacraments sustain me through the work of helping vulnerable communities?
Read Maggi’s spiritual reflection here
Links from the show:
Why San Diego’s Catholic leaders are standing with migrants in court—against impossible odds
Pope Leo XIV, in first U.S. appointment, names San Diego’s new bishop
U.S. Catholics are facing an authoritarian threat. The church has been here before.
The U.S. bishops have made a (needed) statement on deportations. Now it’s time to act.
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How do we navigate politics in our congregations, our prayers, and our lives of faith? Fr. James Martin, S.J., discusses these questions with Bishop Mariann Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington DC. Bishop Budde became the first-ever woman to hold her position after being consecrated as the ninth bishop of Washington in November 2011. In addition to being a bishop, she is a mother, grandmother, and author of books including, “Gathering Up the Fragments: Preaching as Spiritual Practice” and “How We Learn to Be Brave: Decisive Moments in Life and Faith”.
Together, Bishop Budde and Fr. Martin discuss:
Preaching in a politically fraught time
Recognizing the humanity in everyone in a polarized country
Experiencing God in your daily life
Chapters:
00:00 Welcome Bishop Mariann Budde
3:51 What defines Episcopalian spirituality?
7:25 Matthew Shepard’s internment at the National Cathedral
11:44 How do you preach about politics?
22:33 Challenging a culture of contempt
28:50 Bishop Budde’s call to ordained ministry
33:35 What is liberation theology?
41:00 Spiritual practices that keep Bishop Budde grounded
47:49: Experiencing God in your day-to-day life
52:29 Audience question: How do we ensure our transgender child knows they are loved by God and by us?
Links from the show:
Bishop Budde showed faithful moral courage. Catholics should follow her lead.
How We Learn to Be Brave
Gathering Up the Fragments: Preaching as Spiritual Practice
Read Maggi and Fr. Jim’s article reflecting on the themes of this episode
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What is moral theology, and where does it fit in our spiritual lives? Fr. James Martin, S.J., asks these questions to James Keenan, a Jesuit priest and one of the world's leading Catholic moral theologians on “The Spiritual Life” podcast. He is the Canisius professor of theology at Boston College, where he also serves as director of the Jesuit Institute and Vice Provost for Global Engagement. He has written and edited over a dozen books, covering everything from church leadership to moral life to bioethics, and more.
Together, they discuss:
- Moral theology in practice
- The role of conscience in our daily lives
- What happens when conscience and church teaching disagree?
Chapters:
00:00 Who is Fr. James Keenan, S.J.?
4:15 Mercy and vulnerability
6:10 Sin is "not bothering"
9:10 What sins are Jesus concerned with?
10:35 Becoming a moral theologian
15:15 Morality and birth control
18:40 What is moral theology?
22:30 What is conscience?
26:23 Conscience and church teaching
30:05 Understanding the Good Samaritan
41:00 Fr. Keenan's spiritual practices
45:10 Audience question: Conscience in difficult decisions
Spiritual advice column for this episode by Maggi and Fr. Jim: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2026/10/06/father-james-martin-keenan-conscience-spiritual-life
Other links:
The liberating work of mercy: Banning ‘servile work’
Pope Leo’s powerful lesson in vulnerable leadership
James F. Keenan, S.J., on guidance for the LGBTQ Catholic conscience
Focusing on the individual is not enough to face today’s crises. We need collective moral agency.
The Moral Life
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Fr. James Martin, S.J., welcomes Susan Stabile, a spiritual director and retreat leader in the Ignatian tradition onto “The Spiritual Life” podcast. Susan was raised Catholic, but spent twenty years practicing Buddhism (and was ordained a Tibetan Buddhist nun) before returning to Catholicism. She now serves as Distinguished Senior Fellow at the University of St. Thomas, as well as adjunct instructor in Theology at St. Catherine’s University, where she is also Co-Director of a Contemplative Practices initiative. Susan offers retreats, spiritual direction, and adult faith formation programs nationally, and is the author of Growing in Love and Wisdom: Tibetan Buddhist Sources for Christian Meditation.
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How do you maintain a friendship with God when life gets hard? What do you do when, in your mid-fifties and at the height of your career, you are diagnosed with an aggressive and incurable brain cancer? That’s the question that confronted Ann Garrido, our guest on, “The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.” podcast. Ann is an associate professor of homiletics at Aquinas Institute of Theology in St. Louis Missouri, where she also founded the school’s master’s program in the Catechesis of the Good Shepherd. She has written several award-winning books including Redeeming Administration, Redeeming Conflict, and Redeeming Power.
Together, Fr. Jim and Ann discuss:
How to reflect on human suffering and “offer it up” as a prayer
Allowing oneself to be wooed by God daily, even when the future seems uncertain
What we can know about heaven
Timecodes:
0:00 “I am with you, and I am within you”
5:58 Where Ann’s life of teaching, preaching and ministry began
9:30 The hard theological questions born in Africa
15:42 How Ann was diagnosed with a glioblastoma
19:57 Noticing God’s presence and offering up her suffering
28:38 God woos Ann each day through the examen prayer
39:46 What we can know about heaven
51:00 Audience Question: How do we maintain a friendship with Jesus that allows us to remain joyful when life is so hard?
Check out Ann's recent book, Redeeming Power
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It’s been over ten years since the award-winning actor Andrew Garfield trained as a Jesuit priest with Fr. James Martin, S.J. Well, more accurately, since he trained to play a Jesuit priest in Martin Scorsese's film Silence. And the fruits of those Ignatian practices of prayer and contemplation have continued to bear out in his life. Garfield joins his long-time spiritual director, Fr. Martin on this episode of “The Spiritual Life” to reflect on:
-The importance of empathy in Garfield’s own spirituality of acting
-The ways God calls us to defend human dignity and fight for justice as portrayed in Garfield’s new movie, ‘The Uprising’
-What lessons from The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius have remained close to Garfield’s heart
-God speaking through our dreams
Timecodes:
0:00 Andrew Garfield
5:20 The spiritual themes of ‘The Uprising’
10:10 Is there a spirituality of acting?
14:30 His mother’s ability to attune to small miracles
18:30 The mystery of faith in ‘Silence’
21:30 Encountering Jesus in the Spiritual Exercises
28:10 How Andrew Garfield reflects on his day with the Jesuit examen
38:05 Does God and our loved ones speak through dreams?
42:20 Audience Question: How do I transform my pain to stop transmitting it to others?
Maggi Van Dorn’s producer’s notes on this episode
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“The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.” returns for its third season with what is sure to be a crowd favorite: a conversation with the legendary Catholic musician Matt Maher. A nine-time Grammy Award nominee, Maher has written some of the most widely sung worship songs across many Christian denominations, including “Lord I Need You,” “Your Grace Is Enough,” and his latest, “Gonna Be Alright.” Together with host James Martin, S.J, Matt reflects upon:
The profound conversion experience Matt had in his early 20s that led to his vocation as a praise and worship singer-songwriter.
The evolution of praise and worship music in the last century
The ways that “writing to task” and divine inspiration have shaped Maher’s songwriting
The ministry of being on the road with people and home with family
Timcodes:
0:00 In a didactic age of faith, we need to return to the experience of God
5:10 The conversion experience that led to Matt’s vocation as a Christian musician
12:39 Church music progression: from the St. Louis Jesuits to modern praise and worship
24:35 Writing out of the experience of the Eucharist
26:10 Any great song tells the truth
30:10 The practices that keep Matt spiritually alive
34:13 Discernment and detachment for creatives
38:28 Encountering God in relationships
46:54 Audience Question: I am often moved to tears at mass but don’t understand why?
Maggi Van Dorn’s producer’s notes on this episode
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Founder of Homeboy Industries and best-selling spiritual writer, Greg Boyle, S.J., joins James Martin S.J. on the season finale of “The Spiritual Life” podcast. They talk about who inspired Greg to join the Jesuits, where he goes for spiritual direction each morning, bringing a mystical lens to reading the Bible, and how the community at Homeboy, the world’s leading gang intervention rehabilitation program, has made God’s love real to him.
Timecodes:
0:00 Greg Boyle doesn’t know a bad person
5:20 How Homeboy ministries began
14:17 How joy, humor and fearlessness attracted Fr. Greg to the Jesuits
20:20 Why you need a mystical filter to know the God of Love
24:45 You want to see Jesus so you can be Jesus to others
35:55 Hate is a symptom of bad health, not a bad person
47:00 Dealing with criticism and praise
50:31 Greg’s morning spiritual practice
54:45 Audience Question: How do we know for sure if God forgives us?
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Fr. Greg Boyle’s books:
Tattoos on the Heart
Barking to the Choir
Cherished Belonging
Forgive Everyone Everything
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Hasan Minhaj is “down to catch a blessing,” wherever that may be. The Emmy Award-winning comedian joins James Martin, S.J. on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to share his Muslim faith, how laughter helped to save his life, and his hopes for interreligious dialogue and prayer.
Timecodes:
0:00 How a traveling comedian looks to an ancient faith
4:11 Why laughter is important to the spiritual life
8:13 Hasan’s early childhood influences
9:35 The story of Islam
13:26 Malcolm X & Dr. Sherman Jackson on being Muslim in America
26:02 An inter-faith dialogue on Jesus and the Trinity
30:22 Dealing with negative stereotypes about Islam
33:40 The call to prayer
37:58 Encountering God through acts of virtue
41:30 Islam does not depict God through images
44:15 Audience Question: Advice for someone who hasn’t lived a religious life and has doubts, but still feels called to faith?
Hasan’s podcast episode with Fr. Jim: Hasan Minhaj Doesn't Know
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David Brooks is known as one of America’s leading public intellectuals, a longtime columnist for The New York Times and now a staff writer at The Atlantic. He joins James Martin, S.J., on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to share how he went from a mostly cultural Jew, to a “Jew-y” Christian in the land of faith.
Timeline:
0:00 Traveling to the land of faith
6:20 Our social and political problems are spiritual ones
10:04 Understanding the America’s religious revival
11:46 Religious but not yet spiritual
14:05 David’s movement to faith
19:05 Dorothy Day and St. Augustine influences
28:15 Unpacking David’s mystical experiences
34:35 A new frontier in the Christian faith
37:33 Three Jewish women that paid attention: Simone Weil, Edith Stein, Etty Hillesum
47:50 Audience Question: How do we maintain hope in bleak times?
Brooks is the bestselling author of several books including:
How to Know a Person: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/652822/how-to-know-a-person-by-david-brooks/
The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/217649/the-second-mountain-by-david-brooks/
The Road to Character:
https://www.acappellabooks.com/pages/books/343956/david-brooks/the-road-to-character
Bobos in Paradise
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bobos-in-Paradise/David-Brooks/9780684853789
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