It's been a crazy week, so the show notes will be short and sweet.

Brian Recker is a public theologian, has a new book on Hell coming out at the end of the month, and I had a great time talking with him. In our conversation we cover:

• Our mutual love of movies (and solo theater visits)
• The extremely conservative colleges we attended
• Hell as a foundational principle
• Coercive, fear based spirituality
• Keeping up relationships with family with whom we disagree
• Progressive purity tests
• Men's Fall fashion
• And MORE!

We hope you enjoy the episode. If you do, tell a friend!

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Shoutouts:

Splitsville

A Rebellion of Care

Wrong Turns podcast

Grave Conversations

Andor

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