In this episode of the Making Disciples podcast, Vick Green and Jeremy Smith unpack 17 years of hard-earned lessons in disciple making and introduce the heart behind the new Movement-Ready Church. They explore why multiplication is counterintuitive, why culture matters more than strategy alone, and why true disciple-making movements require grit and long-term faithfulness. If you’re a church leader who longs to see more than attendance growth—if you want to see real transformation and multiplication—this episode will challenge your thinking and give you a practical pathway forward.

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