Paul talks with Tom Clifford about New Mexico's precarious budget situation. Tom has extensive political and budgetary knowledge including time spent working for the Joint Tax Committee in Washington, he is known to most for his recent work with Gov. Susana Martinez as Secretary of Finance and Administration, In this role, Tom acted as the Governor’s senior advisor for economic policy.  What would he tell Gov. Lujan Grisham right now? How bad is the budget situation and what should be done about it?