***This is Part 2 of a conversation we began last week. Please go back and catch up if you haven't.***

In what ended up being an almost 3 hour conversation, we pick up with Josh's thoughts about modern monetary theory and how the church may be operating on outdated conceptions of money. Stephen then guides us through some thoughts about how giving be uncomfortable by definition and if the "firstfruits" concept is valid teaching to follow. Emily rounds out the conversation with real world implications about getting paid as a pastor and receiving money from our new Patreon campaign!

Mentioned in the episode: 

• Modern Monetary Theory
• Radiolab Podcast: More Money Less Problems
• Tithing in Mormonism
• Mark 12:41-44 - The Widows Two Mites
• Matthew 6:1-4 - Giving in Secret
• Genesis 4:1-7 - Abel's first-fruit offerings

Follow the hosts on Twitter: 

• Josh: @joshlieuallen
• Emily: @RevRettinghouse
• Stephen: @stephenghenning

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Thank you to Louie Zong for use of his song In Full Color, off his album, Here. Find his work on Spotify and Bandcamp!