We're feeling silly out here, so Josh decides it's time we at Ravel finally invent our own typology system.

Host Recommendations

• Stephen: The Complete Enneagram by Beatrice Chestnut, You Were Born For This by Chani Nicholas
• Josh: Game Changer on dropout.tv, go somewhere new
• Emily: Get a new tattoo, deepen a relationship you're enjoying

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

Of course, we had to turn the tables. Because Emily is probably not the only one wondering, "Stephen, why are you going to church if you're still an atheist?"

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
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• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

The title kinda says it all. You read that right. Stephen, the atheist of the pod, is now going to church. And he has questions for his new pastor about the denominations practices, motivations, and histories!

Host Recommendations

• Stephen: Hope United Methodist Church in Billings Heights, Montana
• Emily: Try going to a different church every one in a while

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

After a late night road trip full of nostalgia, Josh has questions about what music brings us back to the good ol' days. Especially within the Christian genre, we meander through many songs, bands, and eras of the Christian music we grew up with: good, bad, and cringy. We try to name the silliest Christian song, the silliest Silly song, silliest camp song, and take some serious shots at grifters like Kanye. So enjoy!

And enjoy this TREASURE TROVE of music linked below recommended by each of the hosts!

Host Recommendations

• Stephen: 
  • Song: We Can Do Hard Things by Tish Melton
  • Song: Kiss The Sky by Maren Morris
  • Album: Dark Sun by Dayseeker
  • Album: Color Decay by The Devil Wears Prada
  • Album: Fatalism by Polaris
  • Album: Five Score and Seven Years Ago by Relient K
  • Album: Sick Boi by Ren
  • Music Video: Hi Ren by Ren
  • Artist: Roo Panes
  • Album: Turbo by Cory Wong & Dirty Loops
  • Playlist: JAMS
• Josh: 
  • Artist: Gregory Alan Isakov
  • Artist: Remi Wolf
  • Artist: The Band CAMINO
  • Artist: Jonsi
  • Artist: Tessa Violet
• Emily: 
  • Album: The Joshua Tree album by U2
  • Artist: The Rocket Summer
  • Song: Peach Fuzz by Caamp
  • Song: Jericho by Iniko
  • Song: No Regrets by JAHKOY
  • Song: Come and Get Your Love by Red Bone
  • Song: Lost In The Woods from Frozen 2

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

It's a boys night! Josh and Stephen are left alone to talk about religion in the workplace. It felt fitting, after all, to let the pastor have a break for this one, considering her workplace IS her religion. We get into public shows of faith at work, evangelism in the cubicles, and what exactly "makes us different."

Host Recommendations

• Josh: Phrases on a tilt
• Stephen: LEGOs

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

There are still quite a few things we've never done here at Ravel. One of them was playing games on air. So we change that today, as Stephen leads us through a bracket style challenge game, pitting 32 ancient and modern heresies against each other in order to find the ultimate ICK! Grab a drink, play along, and learn a little bit about what Christians through the ages have cared about enough to condemn certain ideas as (scare quotes) HERESY!

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

... but we're actually not going anywhere! Just different.

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• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

Natural disasters often ignite spiritual reflection, but what if the apocalypse isn’t destruction, but transformation? In this episode, we trace the line between eschatology and ecology, questioning the theology that sees disaster as divine judgment and exploring what it means to live as responsible stewards in a world crying out for renewal.

Host Recommendations

• Stephen: Octavia Butler's Earth Seed series
• Josh: Get a dog, if you can
• Emily: Explore new hobbies

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Credits:

• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

We're back, and we explore whether transitional beliefs are helpful or harmful in faith journeys. We dig into slippery slopes, the power of personal values, and how openness (not rigidity) often shapes a healthier spiritual life. Along the way, we debate if progressive Christianity is truly an “off-ramp” out of faith, or just a new way to stay on the road. 

Mentioned in the episode:

• Spiral Dynamics Wiki
• Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant
• Is Dan A Christian Agnostic? YHP episode
• Fiddler On The Roof

Host Recommendations

• I Wrote This When I Was Manic by Mason Scurry
• Two Steps With Stephen Henning
• Conclave movie

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Credits:

• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv

***CW: There is a brief mention of suicide at 39:48 and a story involving the following memorial service lasting until 41:20.

If you or a loved one are experiencing mental health struggles, please call or text the Crisis Lifeline at 988. Please listen gently and carefully.***

Allow us to set the table for a classic Christian conundrum: who gets to come to the table and partake in Communion? Do the gluten-free get to have an option in this highly symbolic act of worship and ritual? What about those with food allergies? Or that youth group camp that is forced to use corn chips and yellow lemonade in their communion service? Or perhaps you enjoy a meal in remembrance of a loved one with boxed wine and McDoubles? What COUNTS?

Mentioned in the episode:

• Ravel Episode 63. It's All About Food

Host Recommendations

• Many books
  • Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist by Brant Pitre
  • The Lambs Supper: The Mass as Heaven on Earth by Scott Hahn
  • Signs of Life: 40 Catholic Customs and Their Biblical Roots by Scott Hahn
  • The Fourth Cup: Unveiling the Mystery of the Last Supper and the Cross by Scott Hahn
  • Consuming The Word: The New Testament and the Eucharist in the Early Church by Scott Hahn
• Spinach cream
• Wholesome weekly rituals like Waffle Wednesday

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Credits:

• Theme Song: In Full Color by Louie Zong on Spotify and Bandcamp
• Artwork: Yarn and Ravel by Dixie Lee Henning @dixieleedraws
• Produced by Stephen Henning, Josh Lieuallen, and Emily Rettinghouse
• Editing/Audio Engineering by Stephen Henning
• Certified Organic benediction by Reverend Emily Rettinghouse, MDiv