You, Me and An Album

198. Jeremy Shatan Discusses Holly Miranda, Mutual Horse


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Music journalist, podcaster and photographer Jeremy Shatan drops in on YMAAA to introduce Al to Holly Miranda’s 2018 album Mutual Horse. Jeremy talks about how his exploration of Miranda’s music began with a New York Times article that he read, and how it led him to follow her career ever since. He explains why he thinks Mutual Horse is Miranda’s best album and why it is a favorite in his collection. Jeremy also talks about how he developed broad musical tastes and why he started blogging and doing his Discover Music with AnEarful podcast.


On this episode, Al made a reference to the first episode of Discover Music with AnEarful, in which Jeremy explains how he became a musical obsession. If you’re not familiar with Jeremy’s podcast, this is a great place to start. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-5-how-i-got-here/id1588981051?i=1000537666517


Jeremy mentioned the New York Times article that catalyzed his Holly Miranda fandom. You can read it here: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/14/arts/music/14mira.html.


Through the first 197 episodes of YMAAA, neither of Al’s horses had anything to contribute to the show. On this one, at 54:40, Fynn makes his YMAAA debut.


To check out Jeremy’s Substack, go to anearful.substack.com.

His Spotify playlists are available at https://open.spotify.com/user/jshatan.

Jeremy’s photography website: [email protected]


Jeremy has not one, but two Instagram accounts!

For music: @anearfulmusic

For photography: @murgatroyd

You can also follow Jeremy on these other social media platforms…

@AnEarful on Facebook, Tiktok and X

@AnEarfulTV on YouTube


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1:09 Jeremy joins the show

1:35 Jeremy explains how he first got interested in Holly Miranda’s music

7:34 Al talks about his observations regarding Miranda’s on-stage charisma

8:53 Jeremy notes Miranda’s progression across her first three albums

17:29 Jeremy appreciates the way that Miranda puts an album together

19:01 Hearing some of the tracks live ahead of time got Jeremy excited about buying Mutual Horse

21:18 “Wherever You Are” made a great first impression on Jeremy

23:42 Al and Jeremy talk about Mutual Horse’s sonic variety, particularly in the album’s middle section

29:40 Jeremy and Al discuss Miranda’s collaboration with Kyp Malone on “Exquisite”

31:54 Jeremy and Al talk about Miranda's Neil Young cover and some of her other cover songs

35:58 Jeremy explains how the tracks on the latter part of the album relate to the death of Miranda’s mother

41:41 Jeremy has gained a new perspective on the grind of the recording industry

50:08 Jeremy talks about getting to know Miranda personally

55:37 Jeremy explains how Miranda wound up writing and contributing to the theme song for Discover Music with AnEarful

56:50 Jeremy shares how he developed such a broad range of musical interests and how he keeps up with new music

1:10:09 Jeremy talks about the value of admitting your musical ignorance

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