Never The Same

#2 - Cheyenne Ellis on the most valuable thing you can do for someone who's going thru loss / finding more good days / normalizing conversations around death


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Today’s guest is the one and only Cheyenne Ellis…where do I start with Cheyenne? First off she’s an old friend of mine…we’ve known each other about ten years now, and she’s always been someone I look up to, both for serious things like work and handling the s**t life throws at you, and also for play and how to have a vibrant social life…there’s no one who brings people together quite like Chey. Professionally, she’s a successful commercial photographer who’s traveled the world behind the lens, but in front of it she’s a model of emotional intelligence, kindness and community. She recently retired as the unofficial mayor of Topanga to move up to Half Moon Bay to marry a big wave surfer, and her presence is strongly felt wherever she goes, whether that’s leading our Burning Man camp, making world-class avocado toast or (on the wild nights) dancing until 9pm. 

Chey was super close with her dad and when she lost him suddenly, her world was thrown upside down, which was then compounded again when her mom passed just a couple years later, also unexpectedly and with a lot of questions left unanswered. Our first convo got cut off about halfway thru - technical difficulties that were totally this first time podcaster’s fault, but we just kept going and even on the second go around we got deep into: 

- How to show up for people in times of loss

- Finding joy amongst the pain

- Normalizing conversations around death

- How to make the most of this time here on earth

 Chey was instrumental in my own healing journey and I’m so excited to introduce you all to her…I know you’re going to enjoy the conversation as much as I did…ladies and gents, Cheyenne Ellis.

You can follow Cheyenne at @cheyenneellis

Intro music by @joshjameslim

All other music licensed by Epidemic Sound



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