This one feels a little different.

In this episode, Kevin and Jamie sit down for what will be the last episode of 2 Clicks in a Pod... for now. There’s no big announcement or perfectly wrapped ending. Just an honest conversation about time, family, distance, and what this podcast has meant to their relationship.

They reflect on how committing to regular conversations created space for deeper connection, how quickly life moves, and why pressing pause feels right in this season. Along the way, they talk about forgiveness, gratitude, and not taking the people you love for granted.

This episode is a thank-you, a reflection, and a closing of this chapter with a lot of appreciation for everyone who listened, reached out, and shared these conversations with others.

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Even though this is the last episode for now, all past episodes will remain available, and we’d love to stay connected.

See you again one day.

“If my brain doesn’t think it’s about to die, I’m not fully alive.”

Kevin and Jamie talk with Jake Parrish about growing up in East Texas, learning hard skills early, and spending years in oil and gas work where attention, precision, and risk were part of everyday life. Jake shares what it was like welding pipelines across Texas, living on the road, and navigating a career where experience is earned the hard way.

When a shift to remote work brought him back home, it also reopened a door he thought was closed — the door to wakeboarding. Jake walks through returning to board sports after years away, competing again, traveling internationally, and eventually helping bring a sanctioned wakeboarding event back to East Texas.

This conversation is about work ethic, adrenaline, identity, and what happens when you choose a path that keeps you engaged instead of settling into autopilot. 

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“Nobody wants to be fooled — we all want to know if what we believe actually holds water.”

Kevin and Jamie talk with Todd Brimm — Army and Navy veteran, retired police detective, instructor, and theologian — about belief, evidence, and the questions people wrestle with at different points in life. They get into what led him to write “Does God Exist?”, how his background shaped the way he examines information, and why he decided to challenge his own assumptions the same way he would evaluate a case.

The conversation moves through worldview, bias, scientific culture, and the human search for meaning, all through Todd’s lens of lived experience rather than theory.

You can find Todd’s book here

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“I like me. My wife likes me.” — the line that gets us every time.

Kevin and Jamie settle in for a lighthearted, nostalgic, and unexpectedly emotional conversation filled with holiday traditions, rising prices, childhood memories, and the magic of John Candy. From the $6 latte debate to the glory of Wawa coffee, they wander through favorite movies, family stories, and the simple moments that make Thanksgiving so special.

They talk about classic films, the chaos of traveling during the holidays, the comfort of old traditions, and the funny, messy, very real details of growing up in two different homes. Along the way, they weave in stories of grandparents, childhood Thanksgivings, and why certain memories — even the embarrassing ones — stay with us forever.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

It’s a warm, funny, and familiar episode perfect for holiday listening — full of stories, gratitude, and the comfort that comes from revisiting the past.

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“Accountability, responsibility, and respect — three things that never go out of style.”

In this unfiltered, laugh-out-loud conversation, Kevin and Jamie dive into real-life lessons from the rink to the classroom, sharing stories of parenting, discipline, and the everyday challenges that shape character. From Parker’s near trip to the principal’s office to reflections on the Old Testament, accountability, and the importance of consequences, this episode moves seamlessly between humor, heart, and hard-earned wisdom.

They talk about growing up, raising kids, and why personal responsibility still matters in parenting, leadership, and life. Along the way, they unpack generational stories and family memories and what it means to show up, own up, and do better next time.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

It’s a heartfelt, funny, and grounding conversation that reminds us that every mistake — and every lesson — is part of growing up and showing up.

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“Don’t be afraid to fail because if you’re going to fail, fail big.”

In this family-first, full-circle conversation, Kevin and Jamie sit down with Shane McClintick—Kevin’s son and Jamie’s brother—to talk about resilience, growth, and the unexpected path that led him from college detours and restaurant shifts to leading a national engineering firm.

Shane opens up about learning discipline through failure, rediscovering purpose in leadership, and what it’s really like working alongside his dad. From early lessons at Florida State to raising kids of his own, this episode reminds us that the road to success isn’t straight—it’s built one step, one setback, and one comeback at a time.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

It’s an honest, funny, and deeply human look at what happens when family, hard work, and personal growth intersect. Whether you’re building a business or simply trying to build a better version of yourself, this episode will hit home.

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“I wasn’t sure I’d ever get married again. But I knew I didn’t want to be anywhere without her.”

In this heartfelt episode, Kevin and Jamie reflect on the twists and turns that led Kevin to find love again with Suzanne. From the uncertainty of online dating and long-distance beginnings to the joy of everyday companionship, their story is one of resilience, laughter, and second chances.

What we talk about in this episode:

Kevin opens up about recommitment, renewal, and the decision to take another chance on marriage. With humor, tenderness, and the kind of storytelling that makes you feel right at home, this episode celebrates the gift of love that grows stronger through life’s hardest seasons.

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“I have one life. It is precious.”

That truth became a guiding force for Julie Porter when she was diagnosed with breast cancer earlier this year. In this episode, Kevin and Jamie sit down with Julie, Jamie’s best friend since third grade, to talk about her journey from diagnosis to double mastectomy, the outpouring of support from her community, and why she believes advocacy and openness are essential.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

Julie’s story isn’t just about cancer—it’s about resilience, choosing courage in the face of fear, and discovering the simple power of connection. From fundraising with “Team Tits and Giggles” to finding strength in her family and friends, Julie shares with honesty, humor, and hope.

About Julie Porter

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Learn more about the Georgia Alliance for Breast Cancer

Read The Good Life (Harvard Study of Adult Development)

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"Faith is a powerful thing. Faith, I do believe, can make miracles happen."

From boat troubles and beach trips to a heartfelt conversation about faith, Kevin and Jamie cover it all in this episode. They swap stories about Ocean City, New Jersey, bringing home new hermit crabs, and what it means to invest in family, community, and belief. Along the way, they dig into childhood routines, the role of ritual, and why the search for meaning feels as relevant at 70 as it did in grade school.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

This conversation moves from lighthearted family stories to a deeper reflection on faith, doubt, and what it means to live as a good person—leaving space for curiosity, honesty, and connection.

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"You can't steal second with your foot on first."

That line from his father became a lifelong lesson for Darryl Traweek—a reminder that growth requires risk, resilience, and courage. In this episode, Kevin and Jamie sit down with Darryl, a longtime family friend and divisional director at RBC Wealth Management, to talk about leadership, overcoming childhood abuse, betrayal in business, and why he believes failure is a gift.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

Darryl’s journey spans running marathons, climbing Kilimanjaro, and building a career in wealth management while staying committed to truth, purpose, and mentorship.

About Darryl Traweek

"Never again. Always forward. Only up."

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