The pub: Broadways, Didcot. The presenters: a 22-year-old feminist environmentalist and a 42-year-old Christian socialist. The beer: American and surprisingly hard to pronounce. Also: gin.

Beer Christianity episode 2: Ginesis features a long and funny interview with Harry and Chris, whose entire back catalogue you should get immediately. It also features reflections on Greenbelt festival 2019, which hosted Harry and Chris, Justin Welby, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Extinction Rebellion and Brass Against. You should go next year. Greenbelt is wonderful. And they have a thing called Beer and Hymns, which is as amazing as it sounds.

Apologies in advance for the jukebox noise. It's a real pub. A real, great, noisy-ass pub.

Many thanks to Greenbelt for making the interview possible and to Harry and Chris for being wise and funny about being Christian in a comedy space, what to do if you want to make it as an artist, and why Chris was washing Jonty's feet. Well. Foot.