As Jack says, it’s a big deal when your heart’s on fire—and it’s an equally big deal when it is not. In episode 2, Jack, Seth, and Sam focus on the center of Jack’s extraordinary linocut “The Spiritual Mechanics of Labor and Rest.” At the center is the heart on fire.

We talk about art and icons of the Northern Renaissance, the intricacy of copper engravings, the difference between the Northern and Italian Renaissance, the transformative power of art, the beauty of engraved lines, the importance of devotional imagery, the struggle of language and communication, signs vs. symbols, and the symbol of the burning heart.

Jack reads an original poem, the guys discuss becoming whole through being consumed, and how the things we hate can actually be stepping stones toward God. The guys affirm that nothing in our lives is wasted, and we each are called to be “sore amazed.”

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