Builders Gonna Build

2. Justin Frankel, creator of Winamp and Reaper

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Justin shares how he created Winamp and sold it to AOL at age 20 and tells us about his current project, digital audio workstation (DAW) Reaper.

Segments

[03:16] The genesis of Winamp

[11:07] Winamp whips the llama's ass

[14:06] Nullsoft

[16:27] Winamp as a platform

[23:16] The business side of Winamp

[24:11] What was it like to work at AOL?

[27:06] Why Justin doesn't use streaming services

[30:03] Justin's website

[32:06] Why Justin created Reaper

[35:48] Shipping v1 of Reaper

[37:02] Reaper is built by just a few people

[38:53] Cross-platform codebase

[40:48] Reaper as a platform

[43:42] Future of Reaper

[44:40] AI in Reaper

[47:09] Questions lightning round

[53:36] Book recommendations


Show notes

Where to find Justin

  • Mastodon — [email protected]

  • Justin’s website

  • Ask Justin Frankel

    • Books

    • Masters of Doom by David Kushner

    • Nona the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir

    • The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu

    • Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

    • Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott

      • Podcasts

      • Interview with Justin on the Internet History Podcast

        • Software

        • Winamp

        • Reaper

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