Francis talks about a new road Lone Rock Timber wants to build through a rare and beautiful old growth forest, with the blessing of Roseburg BLM. Even though Lone Rock has existing access to their adjoining land, and more direct access, the BLM will allow a huge new road and truck turn around to be cut through centuries old trees, in the best spotted owl habitat, without wildlife surveys, and during the height of the nesting season.

In the second half, Keven Matthews is talking at a herbicide spray panel in April. Kevin explains how the state of Oregon and Oregon counties are not being paid taxes from large industrial forest land owners. While small land owners pay taxes, big timber companies are forgiven their taxes. Keven also talks about the job myth, and why logging more public forests does not provide more jobs. He does refer to some slides, but the listener can still follow the audio.