For Podcast #2 in our "Giants in Retina" Series, Dr. Steven Schwartz interviews Dr. George Williams.  Dr. Williams is Chair of the Department of Ophthalmology and Director of the Beaumont Eye Institute in Royal Oak, Michigan.  He has served as past President of the American Academy of Ophthalmology and has been instrumental in shaping healthcare policy, benefiting numerous patients.  In addition, Dr. Williams is a leader in graduate medical education, having served as a mentor to countless residents and fellows.  In this episode, Dr. Williams talks about his personal professional journey, the values he looks for in choosing colleagues and trainees, the joys of training and learning from ophthalmologists around the globe and the role ophthalmologists can play in shaping healthcare policy.  It's an enlightening interview that highlights the importance of interpersonal relationships in our professional lives.