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2: When Religion Fails and Only Jesus Remains
In this raw and honest episode, Todd and Laura pull back the curtain on their opposite spiritual journeys—one shaped by rebellion and occult deception, the other by religious performance and disappointment.
Todd chased fulfillment through art, alcohol, and hidden forms of spirituality… only to realize he had wandered deep into the occult without knowing it.
Laura followed all the “Christian rules”—Bible school, marriage, morality—and still found herself empty.
Together, they unpack the myth that good behavior equals blessing, and that rebellion makes you hopeless.
The truth? Only Jesus can truly fulfill—and both “naughty” and “nice” people need Him equally.
🔍 In this episode:
Why religious formulas don’t lead to transformation
How deception can masquerade as spiritual fulfillment
What it really means to relate to Jesus instead of perform for Him
How grace levels the playing field for both the rule-breakers and the rule-followers
Whether you’re burned out on religion or trying to earn your way into God’s favor—this conversation will shake up your assumptions and point you toward the freedom you were made for.
🔗 Subscribe & Follow for More Deep Biblical Truths!
References:
Matthew 6:9-13, John 18, Deuteronomy 31:6, Acts 2, Matthew 19:23-26, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25, Romans 8:28, Genesis 3:19, Matthew 21:12-13, Mark 11:15-16, John 2:15, Isaiah 56:7, Tim Keller Sermon
Email Us: [email protected]
Donations welcome and appreciated: buymeacoffee.com/naughtyversusnice
Original Music: Stephen Elkins
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By naughtyversusniceIn this raw and honest episode, Todd and Laura pull back the curtain on their opposite spiritual journeys—one shaped by rebellion and occult deception, the other by religious performance and disappointment.
Todd chased fulfillment through art, alcohol, and hidden forms of spirituality… only to realize he had wandered deep into the occult without knowing it.
Laura followed all the “Christian rules”—Bible school, marriage, morality—and still found herself empty.
Together, they unpack the myth that good behavior equals blessing, and that rebellion makes you hopeless.
The truth? Only Jesus can truly fulfill—and both “naughty” and “nice” people need Him equally.
🔍 In this episode:
Why religious formulas don’t lead to transformation
How deception can masquerade as spiritual fulfillment
What it really means to relate to Jesus instead of perform for Him
How grace levels the playing field for both the rule-breakers and the rule-followers
Whether you’re burned out on religion or trying to earn your way into God’s favor—this conversation will shake up your assumptions and point you toward the freedom you were made for.
🔗 Subscribe & Follow for More Deep Biblical Truths!
References:
Matthew 6:9-13, John 18, Deuteronomy 31:6, Acts 2, Matthew 19:23-26, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25, Romans 8:28, Genesis 3:19, Matthew 21:12-13, Mark 11:15-16, John 2:15, Isaiah 56:7, Tim Keller Sermon
Email Us: [email protected]
Donations welcome and appreciated: buymeacoffee.com/naughtyversusnice
Original Music: Stephen Elkins