In this episode of Naughty vs. Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly reflect on aging, memory lapses, and what it means to live as “indoor cats”—before diving deep into the heart of Christian faith: the incarnation of Christ. Together they explore how the humanity of Jesus transforms our understanding of suffering, reconciliation, and spiritual growth.

The conversation highlights why the incarnation matters far beyond Christmas theology—showing that reconciliation with God begins at Christ’s conception and continues through His life, death, and resurrection. They challenge listeners to ground themselves in Scripture, to see suffering as a means of transformation, and to pursue a deeper relationship with God beyond the basics of salvation.

From modern temptations to the lifelong tension of living as citizens of a new kingdom, this episode encourages believers to anchor themselves in Christ’s example and walk faithfully in a world that often resists truth.

The Depth of the Incarnation: Christ as Son of God and Son of Man

Description:

Key themes include:

Why reconciliation began at Christ’s conception, not only at the cross.

How Adam and Israel point forward to the incarnation.

Why Jesus’ life shows us perfect humanity.

What it means to live as a new kind of human in Christ.

How the church often overlooks the depth of the incarnation.

Why the world seeks the things of God without truly knowing Him.

This conversation challenges the surface-level view of the incarnation and invites believers to see it as the foundation of theology, discipleship, and spiritual transformation.

#Incarnation #Theology #JesusChrist

In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, we dive deep into the apocalyptic imagery of the Book of Revelation—specifically the mysterious beasts of Revelation 13. To understand these visions, we trace them back to the Book of Daniel, where prophecy first outlines the rise and fall of kingdoms, the little horn, and the ultimate authority behind it all.

The discussion unpacks:

Why Revelation cannot be understood apart from Daniel’s prophecies.

How the beast of the sea is a composite of historical empires like Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome.

What the little horn represents and why its emergence depends on Rome’s fragmentation.

How the dragon (Satan) empowers the beast with global authority.

Why the second beast of the earth acts as an enforcer and points all worship back to the first beast.

What the image of the beast really means—a socio-religious movement with cultural and political power.

How the mark of the beast is less about microchips and more about loyalty and worship.

Why discernment through Scripture is essential in avoiding deception.

Rather than viewing the beasts as single individuals, this conversation shows how they represent larger powers and systems that influence nations, culture, and faith. With biblical interpretation rooted in history, prophecy, and theology, this episode calls listeners to sharpen their discernment and recognize how authority and worship play central roles in end-times prophecy.

If you’ve ever wondered how Daniel and Revelation connect—or what the beasts really symbolize—this episode will give you clarity, context, and challenge the way you think about apocalyptic literature.

End Times & the Eternal Kingdom: Daniel, Revelation, and the Real Hope of Christianity

In a time when end-times speculation is everywhere, this episode of Naughty vs. Nice digs deeper. Todd, Laura, and Kelly unpack the prophetic dreams of Daniel and their critical connection to the book of Revelation—revealing a timeline of human history that leads not to escape, but to the arrival of a very real kingdom.

They explore the symbolism of the statue and the four beasts, challenge Western assumptions about prophecy, and redefine Christian hope—not as a future rescue, but as a present reality in Christ’s reign. If you've ever wrestled with rapture timelines, Antichrist theories, or what the kingdom of God actually is, this one’s for you.

👉 Topics covered:

What the statue in Daniel really represents

The four beasts and the rise of earthly empires

How Daniel unlocks Revelation’s symbols

Why “hope” isn’t just waiting for Jesus to return

The difference between biblical prophecy and popular fiction

📖 Scripture-heavy. Fluff-free. No flavor enhancers.

In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly take a deep dive into one of the Bible’s most misunderstood figures — the man of lawlessness — and his close connection to the Antichrist. Drawing from scripture rather than pop culture hype, they unpack how lawlessness, deception, and apostasy will impact the visible church in the end times.

From Judas as a biblical model of betrayal to the subtle ways false leaders infiltrate the faith, this conversation reveals why discernment is vital for every believer. They challenge cultural assumptions about Christian morality, warn against the slow corruption of belief, and expose how professing believers could become part of the great apostasy.

Whether you’re studying end times prophecy or simply seeking to strengthen your faith, this discussion will help you recognize false teachings, examine your own walk, and stay grounded in the truth of God’s Word.

Timestamps & Topics:

Antichrist vs. Man of Lawlessness

Mystery of Lawlessness vs. Mystery of Godliness

The great apostasy explained

How cultural pressures distort Christian faith

Self-examination and spiritual vigilance

Unmasking the Antichrist: A Deeper Dive into Scripture, Deception, and Discernment

In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in Christian theology—the Antichrist. Far from being just a singular political figure from the End Times, Scripture reveals the Antichrist as a spirit and system that has been at work since the first century—often operating within the church and disguised as a form of Christianity.

Through biblical interpretation, the hosts examine how pop culture and modern church traditions have shaped misconceptions about the Antichrist, replacing scriptural truth with sensationalized fiction. They explore the narrow road Jesus spoke of—not as a path separating Christians from the world, but as the hard-to-discern truth found within the body of believers.

Listeners will learn:

Why the Antichrist spirit thrives through deception and false doctrine.

How Gnosticism and early heresies still influence church thinking today.

Why the incarnation of Christ is central to resisting false teaching.

How spiritual warfare often comes from within the Christian community.

Why knowing Scripture deeply is the only safeguard against the wide road of counterfeit Christianity.

If you’ve ever wondered how to recognize false prophets, discern truth from error, and resist the spirit of Antichrist in our time, this episode will challenge what you think you know—and point you back to the authority of God’s Word.

🎙️ One Year Later: Faith, Friction, and Finding Our Voice

In this raw and unfiltered anniversary episode, Todd, Laura, and Kelly pull back the curtain on what it’s been like doing a full year of Naughty vs. Nice. With no script and no edits, they reflect on the personal and spiritual shifts that have marked their journey—both behind the mic and in the church pews.

They discuss:

The emotional toll of confronting church culture and bad theology

How their views on leadership, especially women in ministry, have evolved

Nuance in theology—and why they’re not afraid of hard conversations

Dealing with trust issues and spiritual burnout

The cost (and beauty) of building an honest, biblical community

From laughter to lament, it’s all here: the doubts, the breakthroughs, the unexpected turns—and the courage to keep going.

"We're taking June off!"

🔖 Chapters:

This episode isn’t polished—but it’s honest. And that’s the point.

🎙️ Naughty vs. Nice: Generational Perspectives on Christianity – Part Two

In this powerful continuation, Todd and Laura sit down once again with their son and his wife to dig even deeper into the generational differences shaping the modern Christian experience. With honesty and humor, they examine the spiritual confusion that can arise from duality in belief, the subtle invasion of cultural values into church life, and the struggle to address real-world issues like pornography and disconnection.

This episode explores:

Why understanding evil is essential to understanding faith

How authentic relationships foster spiritual growth

The challenges of integrating science, education, and belief

Why parents (and mentors) matter more than ever in shaping faith

How modern Christianity must evolve to meet a fragmented world

From first impressions to lasting spiritual impact, this is a raw and relatable conversation about what it means to truly follow Jesus in a distracted, divided, and digital age.

“Jesus is the only answer that fulfills you.”

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In this heartfelt and eye-opening episode of Naughty vs. Nice, Todd and Laura sit down with Laura’s oldest son and his wife—two twenty-something “nobodies” with something real to say. What unfolds is a raw, cross-generational conversation about marriage, modern culture, and the battle to follow Jesus in a world full of noise.

From the influence of education and the subtle creep of occult ideas into Christian spaces, to the ways social media distorts intimacy and the purpose of relationships, the couple shares their honest experiences navigating life, love, and faith. Together, the four dive into what it means to engage with Scripture beyond the surface, why marriage should be a growth partnership—not just a comfort zone—and how the generational divide can be bridged with humility and truth.

Takeaways:

Jesus is the answer, the only answer.

Understanding the Bible demands depth, not just devotion.

Social media is shaping a synthetic version of connection.

Cultural pressures and occult influences can subtly distort our understanding of Christian identity.

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From Secularism to Sacrament: Luke’s Journey into Faith and Fatherhood

📖 Episode Description:

Luke shares how the upheaval of the pandemic opened the door to belief, how becoming a father transformed his understanding of love and responsibility, and how his search for truth led him through hard questions, uncomfortable realizations, and ultimately into the traditions of the Catholic Church.

This is more than a conversion story. It’s a conversation about the evolving nature of faith, the tension between doctrine and experience, and the urgent need for humility, unity, and grace within the body of Christ.

🎧 Highlights Include:

Why parenthood reshapes spiritual priorities

The tension between Protestant and Catholic beliefs

The importance of personal experience in understanding God

How unity in the Church must be pursued—not assumed

A raw look at the role of ego, argument, and genuine dialogue in faith

🔊 Sound Bites:

"I was very secular in my twenties."

🙌 Whether you're Catholic, Protestant, or somewhere in between—this is a conversation worth having.

References: Kit Culver: God with Us series; What's the Point, Anyway? Podcast