Our tragic backstories and how it affects how we discuss the media we love.

Timestamps:

01:00 When Did No Contact Become a Thing?

03:00 Mental Health and Celebs Changed Things

06:24 Shannon’s Story

09:08 Fandom Friends

18:00 TW Mention of Trauma Memory

25:00 TW Therapist Trauma

30:00 TW Mention of SI

40:00 In Contact Again

59:25 Mandi’s Story

01:03:00 TW Religious Trauma, Medical

01:10:00 Going Viral

01:20:00 Mandi and PJO

01:25:00 DND Idea

References:

Annabeth Tiktok:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThusfovm/

​⁠ Leah Interview

https://youtu.be/7WjeEa8Vd0M?si=t4nCRPpxwMqw2ymZ

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Two Wise Girls podcast is done by two best friends who met via making content about their own trauma who decided team up their hyperfixations of greek mythology, trauma education and media analysis in the form of this show.

Welcome to trauma 101, an explainer of lots of terms that fly around the internet using Percy Jackson, Star Wars and ATLA characters to explain them (and real life experiences from us). Thank you for giving us a go. Feel free to subscribe if you want more, we post weekly for the past almost 2 years running.

Timestamps:

02:05 Gaslighting

06:43 Love Bombing

20:08 Hoovering

27:20 Triangulation

37:04 Flying Monkeys

50:43 Trauma Bonds

53:16 Narcissistic Rage

1:06:35 Attachment Styles

01:20:46 Betrayal Trauma

01:36:51 Neglect

01:40:21 Financial Abuse

01:45:40 Enmeshment

01:55:00 Outro

References:

Educated by Tara Westover

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/550168/educated-by-tara-westover/

​⁠ playlist on DV

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPJNgK0dy-IDXH6Jab0pqI0H5flfv6ge9&si=GSijTPZH9Od3VS8B

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Two Wise Girls podcast is done by two best friends who met via making content about their own trauma who decided team up their hyperfixations of greek mythology, trauma education and media analysis in the form of this show.

We cover Sea of Monsters as a whole. Thank you to everyone who gave us questions to answer!

Timestamps:

01:23 When We Read PJO

05:56 What Resonated About It?

14:00 Greek Mythology Backgrounds

17:46 Does Mythology Help Enjoy the Show?

23:01 Favorite Myth or Story

27:49 What’s Our Cabins?

29:09 What Changes Would We Want?

33:02 Reylo Comparison to Luke

38:07 Will Bianca Be More Powerful on Show?

41:00 Alison Storyline Hope

45:05 Does the Zeus Scene Make Chiron Worse?

56:10 Scenes From the Book You Wish We Kept In?

1:04:28 Favorite/Least Favorite Episode

01:12:17 Favorite/Least Favorite Character

01:19:41 Favorite/Least Changes?

01:23:10 Favorite Percabeth Scene?

01:29:12 Characters We Changed Minds About?

01:30:54 Parentification in Broken Trio

01:39:41 Fandom Things in Show?

01:47:58 What We’ll Cover Next

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Two Wise Girls podcast is done by two best friends who met via making content about their own trauma who decided team up their hyperfixations of greek mythology, trauma education and media analysis in the form of this show.

We cover the whole Sea of Monsters finale that led us feeling very conflicted. As in we didn’t agree!

1:30 Thalia memory recap

5:00 Sally: what she knows

10:00 Shannon Dislike of Thalia’s storyline change #1

16:33 Not RIP Tantalus

19:48 Luke’s Army

20:50 Shannon Dislike of Luke Change

28:00 Alison’s role

37:00 Percy’s Braveheart Speech

44:21 Kayla Knowles

48:00 Luke Entering Camp

49:40 Chris is a Mole

54:20 Katie Gardiner is Not Dead

57:28 Big Battle Mandi Critique

1:01:00 Luke Not Priority in Ep

1:04:00 Percy Luke Fight

1:06:06 Does Percy Have Empathy for Luke?

01:10:41 No Contact Pep Talk

01:14:00 TW school shooting mention

01:16:43 TW done

1:23:00 Tyson Is Our Hero

01:26:00 Disney Deleted the Party Ponies

01:30:22 Thalia Electrocutes Percy by Accident

01:31:00 Poseidon Dream

01:33:00 Tyson Don’t Go

01:36::00 Poseidon’s Brother Comment

01:39:40 Disney Stop It Thanks

01:50:00 We Gloat About Our Read of

Chiron Being Right

01:52:40 The Big Zeus Scene

01:54:00 Why Mandi Likes It

01:57:00 Why Shannon Doesn’t

2:01:18 How it Changes Luke and Thalia

2:09:00 Book Purists Suck

02:10:49 Thalia Waking Up

02:11:00 Titans Curse Speculation

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Two Wise Girls podcast is done by two best friends who met via making content about their own trauma who decided team up their hyperfixations of greek mythology, trauma education and media analysis in the form of this show.

Trigger Warnings:

Physical Torture, Child Sexual Abuse

Emotional Abuse, Mental Abuse, Cults

Homelessness, Dehumanization, Strict Religions, Mention of School Shootings,

Spirituality Abuse, Ableism

03:00 Annabeth’s Dream

11:00 Charmspeak

14:00 Clarisse and Percy Fight

18:20 Cut Ares Clarisse Scene

22:00 TW Homelessness

24:00 Alison

33:00 Iris Messages Down

36:00 BLACKJACK

40:00 Physical Torture

45:00 Physical Torture, Emotional Abuse

54:09 Preeti Childhood Torture NonProfit

55:21 High Pain Tolerance

59:20 Torture TW Done

1:00:00 Percy Not for the Gods

1:04:00 Clarisse Badass Fight

1:07:48 Andrew Alvarez

1:08:00 Percy Not Tempted

1:10:50 “Annabeth Lied to Me”

1:15:00 How the Writing Victimized Luke

1:16:00 TW Mention of School Shootings

01:17:00 Dehumanization of Other Demigods

01:18:10 TW Mention of Culty Churches

01:20:00 Shannon’s New Age Spirituality Story

1:24:00 TW: CSA Mention very short

01:27:00 Reylo lol why

01:29:00 Storyline Critique

01:31:00 Percy and Luke Fight

01:32:00 Cam Silas Tiktok

01:35:00 How the Fight Ends

01:36:00 Luke Stabs Percy

01:38:21 THE EP IS TOO SHORT

01:42:00 Clarisse Annabeth Percy and

Blackjack

01:45:00 Percy’s Apology

01:47:21 PAULS CAR

01:49:00 Percy Worried About Thalia

01:54:00 TW Physical Torture

02:00:00 Why We Don’t Think Luke

Is a Victim: Shannon Vulnerability Time

2:01:40 Rick Riordan Quote

2:03:00 Our Real Life Stories

TW: Physical, Emotional, Sexual Abuse, Ableism

02:17:06 Finale Speculation

02:25:00 Our Nuclear Thalia Theory

References:

Cam Silas: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThkeGoRd/

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https://www.prettigraffiti.org/for-survivors

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Goodness you bet we have a lot to say about the straight up trauma of this episode and what it says about Percy as a character and hero.

Timestamps:

0:30 intro

1:16 TYSONNNNN

3:27 Percy’s Nightmare

11:46 SHUT UP ZEUS

17:00 Polyphemus Changes

27:21 Season 4

32:20 Luke’s Iris Message

37:20 Annabeth’s Trauma Bond

39:52 YOU ARE 20 SIR

45:00 Luke’s Leadership

51:10 Sheep time

51:42 Kyle Meredith Shoutout

59:35 Clarisse and Grover

59:00 Should Percy Have Gone In?

1:03:00 “Hi”

1:07:10 Annabeth is Nobody

01:12:00 Luke is Here

01:18:47 Annabeth is Hurt

01:21:34 TYSON HEARTATTACK

01:24:57 Percy Anakin Comparison

01:33:34 Toxic Masculinity

01:34:49 Don’t Get this Flaw

01:38:06 Is Luke Telling the Truth?

01:44:47 How it Worked in Season One

01:50:00 Anger v Desperation

2:00:00 Book Citations

2:06:00 Give Walker An Award STAT

2:09:58 Ep 7 preview

References:

Kyle Meredith Walker Interview https://youtu.be/FwFw6wkORkc?si=TckCKj2vOxNCfrGo

Dark Percy Video https://youtu.be/ya2YLsCzm7Y?si=OHGMbAW6jn5nRLc9

The Last Okympian playlist:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLle_JZEqDeVlMs-VLfdCauZMQB1zN9__r&si=Lf2hHsBetA2r0Ibu

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The Siren scene episode is finally here in season two of Sea of Monsters. Here we discuss fatal flaws a lot.

02:00 Percy sees Annabeth is alive

04:00 Hylla

07:00 Give Walker and Leah Emmys

9:00 Tyson, Intro to Sirens

17:25 Circe the Life Coach

21:36 You Can’t Get Past the Sirens

23:00 Circe in Madeline Miller

28:00 “Nice Dress”

29:00 Grover’s Hope

34:06 Makeovers

36:00 Circe’s “Class”

42:41 Circe’s Fatal Flaw

46:30 Percy’s Vision

49:45 Loyalty is not Percy’s Flaw: Our Magnum Opus

55:52 Why Percy Thinks He’s Dangerous

1:03:00 Percy’s Fatal Flaw (to us)

1:07:30 Toxic Relationships in PJO

01:17:00 Annabeth Loves His Humanity

01:19:00 Clarisse Falling

01:23:15 Percy Learns About MLMs

01:27:00 Cult Speak

01:30:00 Sarah Watson shoutout

01:32:00 Circe’s People Pleasing

01:37:20 Circe and Medusa Similarities

01:41:02 Clarisse And Ares

01:43:00 Polyphemus Changes

01:48:33 Annabeth and Sally

01:52:45 Circe the Enmeshed Mom

01:55:02 Sirens Mythology

01:57:30 Athena Fakeout

01:59:10 Intergenerational Trauma

02:03:00 Last Percy Annabeth Scene

02:06:00 Their Story So Far

02:08:00 Did Percy See Something?

2:09:30 Book Changes

References:

Our Dark Percy Video https://youtu.be/ya2YLsCzm7Y?si=fjdbo7FHmkaqCQyB

​⁠ mentioned ep 5 parallels

​⁠ Daniella’s Youtube

Percy Annabeth Tiktok we mentioned

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS3r5qPjCEs/?igsh=MXBwdHNzNG41Z3p6bg==

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Episode Four of Sea of Monsters is a work of art and we are just here to appreciate it. Lets dive into all the complex trauma that’s everywhere you look!

Timestamps:

:50 Titans Curse Cast Updates

05:29 Annabeth Flashback #1

7:00 Thalia Handling All the Monsters?

10:00 Writer of Episode

11:00 Thalia’s Bond with Annabeth

12:55 Flashbacks Timeline

17:18 Tyson and Percy

18:00 Percy as Gods Scapegoat

22:40 Clarisse Fight

25:00 Book Accuracy

28:00 The undead soldiers

33:00 Scylla/Charybdis Plan

37:00 Clarisse Thinking Ares Would Help

41:42 Flashback #2: Satyr Hideout

46:00 Camp Half Blood = Treatment Centers

52:00 Why Shannon Thinks Luke Never

Had a Point

55:04 Intergenerational Trauma

1:02:30 Thalia and Luke Romance?

1:06:26 RAINBOWWWWWWW

1:07:00 “I Know Where I Am”

1:09:20 Director Jason Ensler

01:10:00 Annabeth’s Self Hatred

01:13:00 Flashback #3

01:16:42 Seaweed Brain pod interview w Shae

01:20:40 Golden Child definition

1:23:00 Annabeth Needs Therapist Percy

01:27:20 The Percy and Clarisse Scene

01:28:00 Homeless on Quests

01:34:46 Dior’s emotions

01:35:00 This scene is perfect

01:41:00 Scylla should be this hard

01:43:00 Why don’t Percabeth care

about the men as much?

01:45:12 Into Charybdis We Go

01:46:29 Percy and Annabeth Plan Book V Show

01:51:00 Everything Has Fallen Apart

01:55:00 Siren Scene Next

1:56:00 Mandi’s Reaction to the End

02:01:00 All Hail Vanilla

References:

​⁠ seaweed brain pod Shae Worthy video:

https://youtu.be/esTxZUWP1Y8?si=-4e6FfZFmn9CcTf5

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#percyjacksonandtheolympians #percyjacksontvshow

We got lots of discuss with Annabeth’s trauma bond with Luke, Percy’s betrayal trauma, Luke’s overt manipulation and lies, Tyson saving the day and Clarisse being the best.

Timestamps:

2:00 Clarisse’s Oracle

6:00 Chris Rodriguez Recast

20:00 the Normies on the Andromeda

30:00 Seaweed Brain Short on Percy trying to get Annabeth to do normal things

38:00 Clarisse and Ares

42:00 Allison Simms

48:00 Percy wanting Luke to die

is Book Accurate

54:20 Kronos Hurts Percy

56:00 Sea Shanty

01:02:00 Percy Can’t Fight Luke and Win

01:06:00 Luke is Book Accurate

01:08:00 “You Didn’t Know Her”

01:12:00 Camp Half Pod Shoutout

01:14:00 Thalia Speculation

01:26:00 Why Luke Wants Percy To Join

01:28:00 Does Luke Like Monsters?

01:34:00 Allison hates Annabeth

01:39:00 Clarisse Figuring it Out

01:46:00 Tyson’s Bomb

01:50:00 Last Percy Annabeth Scene

01:54:05 Luke Trusts Prophecies Now?

01:57:32 Percy’s Betrayal Trauma

2:04:00 Tyson and Lastrygonians

References:

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​⁠ ​⁠

​⁠ @melanated wise girl

@seaweedbrainpod

@camp half pod

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Percy Jackson is back babyyyyyy!

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