How do we reclaim the disowned parts that get linked with the feeling of shame, so we can have our emotional wisdom and our true selves, ready to go, with less suffering.

How can we make use of our life-force energy (desire) and undo our defenses so that we can reclaim those disowned parts?

We all have desire:
to be free
to be all of who we are
to have a meaningful life
to make a difference
to connect deeply with others, as well as ourselves.


In this episode Bonnie and Mallika explore "conflation errors" and "queen archetypes" as helpful frames for undoing our defenses to shame.
We confuse, conflate and put together things that would be helpful to separate.

Some conflation errors are:
Ideal/Real
Primary Emotions/Secondary Emotions
Exploring/Explaining
Whole/Part
Moment/Generalization
Impulse/Action
Caregiving/Caretaking 


Mallika shares an example from her group of a caretaking moment the group members had towards her, having just gone through Hurricane Helene in Western North Carolina. 

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"Me And We: Finding Your Voice and Influencing Relational Interactions"


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Bonnie's Website: bonniemacbride.com
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Thank you to Jessica Carson Chen for the music for the show.
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Thank you to Positron Productions for producing and editing the show.