This week I am sitting down with the amazing Baratunde Thurston! Another "renaissance human" on the podcast, combining a passion for the performing arts with a serious mission to drive broader social change by increasing what he calls "small-d democracy" - having all of us involved and living out our civic duties. Doing well, feeling fine is not just a project of the individual; responsible, autonomous agents get involved in their community. In this episode, Baratunde describes what that can look like.

In the first part of the show, we cover Baratunde's portfolio of work (including but not limited to his How To Citizen podcast, website and initiative). We talk about his background, education, foray into business. We trace back how his passion for the artistic and creative became intertwined with his entrepreneurship and political mission.

From minute 29 onwards, we focus specifically on "citizen as a verb", and discuss his vision for a renewed, functional, inclusive democracy.

You can find his website here.

Here is a trailer for his PBS show America Outdoors.

This is the link to the How to Citizen podcast.