July 29, 2025

#213 | How Indigenous Wisdom and Modern Science Are Revolutionizing Amazon Rainforest Conservation with Rosa Espinoza, PhD (Inbetweenersode #2)

1 hour 25 minutes

Join host Brooke Mitchell for an incredible conversation with Dr. Rosa Espinoza, PhD scientist and author of "The Spirit of the Rainforest: How Indigenous Wisdom and Scientific Curiosity Reconnects Us to the Natural World." Rosa shares her groundbreaking Amazon rainforest research, including her discovery of stingless bees as Earth's oldest pollinators (80 million years old) and their medicinal honey properties used in COVID-19 treatment by indigenous communities. Learn how traditional indigenous knowledge bridges with modern conservation science, from animal self-medication research inspired by ayahuasca experiences to new Peruvian legislation protecting native bee species. Rosa explains why everyone on Earth is connected to the Amazon ecosystem through weather patterns, food systems, and natural medicines, while exploring zoopharmacognosy (animal self-medication), ethnobotany, and the beautiful indigenous concept of "living beautifully" as environmental stewardship. This episode reveals how traditional ecological knowledge from Amazonian communities guides cutting-edge scientific discoveries in biodiversity conservation, pollinator research, and sustainable environmental practices. Perfect for listeners interested in conservation biology, indigenous rights, traditional medicine, Amazon biodiversity, climate science, and innovative approaches to environmental research and cultural preservation.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome
00:55 Rosa's Unique Upbringing in the Amazon
03:27 Journey to Pursuing Science
06:33 Cultural Shock and Adaptation
10:22 The Spirit of the Rainforest: Book Discussion
14:22 Global Connection to the Amazon
19:27 Indigenous Wisdom and Modern Science
27:26 The Importance of Preserving Indigenous Knowledge
42:24 Cultural Pride and Social Media Influence
43:40 Indigenous Voices in Science
46:17 Introduction to Stingless Bees
48:08 The Medicinal Power of Stingless Bee Honey
54:55 Biodiversity and Conservation Efforts
01:00:21 Writing and Storytelling Process
01:05:21 Reconnecting with Nature and Self
01:18:57 Book Release and Final Thoughts

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