Forrest Owens, aviation attorney and private pilot, joins Dylan and Max to dive into the often murky waters of FAA enforcement, pilot liability, and what every professional and private pilot needs to know before picking up the phone. From NASA reports to ADS-B nightmares, this episode is your legal safety briefing—with a side of GoPro caution. Pilots, take notes… and maybe double-check your insurance policy.

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Show Notes

0:00 Intro

5:16 Pilot Deviation

15:39 Handling a Phone Call

22:48 AOPA & Liability

37:21 Umbrella Policy

42:27 Flying for Fun

46:14 Maintenance

53:29 Backcountry Landing

 

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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Dylan and Max kick off with hotel room hacks and tire maintenance DIYs (bed liner on bush wheels, anyone?). In the mailbag, listeners chime in on cicadas, bar recs, AI dolls, and a heartfelt shoutout to a rockstar CFI. Flight Advice features a double header: first, whether to stick with an aviation degree or pivot, and second, a pilot blindsided by a mysterious 135 termination—and the training contract bill that followed.

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Show Notes

0:00 Intro

4:41 Tire Coating and Cicadas

8:48 Flying Diversions

18:02 Reviews

19:23 Mailbag

30:01 Double Flight Advice

 

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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Dylan and Max debut their slick new intro track, give a proper welcome to their AI assistant "Reginald Sage," and swap tales from off-airport landings and Vegas tire goo mysteries. The Mailbag is packed with listener feedback on etiquette videos, bird segments, and even a nighttime trucking dispatch. In Flight Advice, a 26-year-old CFI wonders if a gig flying in Dubai is a golden ticket or a trap. The guys break it down with laughs, caution, and a few hydration tips.

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Show Notes

0:00 Intro & Reginald Sage

6:37 Max’s Musings: Formation Flying & More

26:49 Reviews

30:40 Mailbag

45:54 Flight Advice

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

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Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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Tim Pope returns to the 21.Five cockpit with a fresh instrument rating and a new venture—360 Aviation Advisors. He breaks down Q1’s market turbulence, political biases in financial behavior, and how pilots can prep for leaner flying days. Plus, Dylan and Max dive into “Captain Lifestyle Syndrome” and how to navigate financial FOMO with some flight advice.

Visit Tim's website for more information or to schedule a consult.

Show Notes

0:00 Intro

6:20 Updates and Q1

15:03 Planning For The Next 6-12 Months

20:53 Airline Slowdowns

33:31 Flight Advice: Realistic Pilot Life

 

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

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Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.

This episode kicks off with Dylan and Max diving into pilot health: UV exposure, compression socks, and the harsh truth about retirement and quality of life. In the Mailbag, listeners share wild MU-2 stories, dream trips, and thoughts on skipping the CFI route. The Flight Advice segment checks in with a second-career pilot trying to break into corporate aviation, revealing how timing, networking, and persistence are the real flight plan to success. This one’s for anyone trying to stay in the air—and out of the ER.

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Show Notes

0:00 Intro & Updates

4:33 Max’s Musings

16:38 Pilot Health Concerns

38:22 Reviews

41:17 Mailbag

49:54 Flight Advice

 

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

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Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.

The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.

Dr. Chris Broyhill is back with updates on pilot compensation, market shifts in 2025, and a sneak peek at his upcoming leadership book for bizav professionals. We dig into the real value of the AirComp Calculator, how to use salary data without tanking your next negotiation, and what separates the professionals from the job-hoppers. Plus, Dr. Broyhill drops some spicy takes on military-to-civilian leadership advice.

The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds. 

Show Notes:

0:00 Intro & Updates

8:54 Salary Updates

18:06 Using Data in Salary Negotiation

25:21 Leadership: Want To Vs Have To

31:22 Leadership Textbook for BizAv

37:49 Business Aviation vs Airlines

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

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Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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Dylan and Max kick things off with stories of Cub flights and musing about GLS approaches and Starlink’s newest data plans. The Mailbag’s international flair includes a heartfelt message from a UK pilot and some simmering debate on career paths and sim setups. Flight Advice dives into the looming specter of single-pilot airline operations and how to future-proof your career (hint: maybe dust off that CAD software). Plus, the guys grapple with networking challenges for introverts in aviation.

Show Notes

0:00 Updates: Cub, Starlink, GLS Approaches

21:14 Reviews & Comments

25:01 Mailbag: Networking and More!

43:12 Flight Advice: Single Pilot 

58:02 Final Flight of the Moose

 

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

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The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.

In this episode, Dylan and Max sit down with James Onieal, founder of Raven Career Development, to discuss the current state of pilot hiring and effective strategies for advancing your aviation career. James shares his journey from the cockpit to career coaching, offering invaluable insights for pilots navigating today's job market. Tune in for a candid conversation filled with practical advice and a few laughs along the way.

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Show Notes

6:59 Updates: Softening Market

14:19 Expectations: Majors & Regionals

24:30 Competitive Minimums

39:03 Failed Checkrides

1:00:29 Flight Advice: Termination

1:08:52 Advice on Struggle

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Move your airplane without breaking your back or the bank! Max said the Amigo AeroTow's affordable T1 tug has 'changed his hangar life'. Learn more about AeroTow's family of aviation tugs and see why its earning rave reviews from top 40 aviation podcast hosts around the globe. Use code "21five" at checkout for $100 off any AeroTow product!

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

--

Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

--

Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"

The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

--

VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral Program

--

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--

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Max shares a wild story involving VFR ops in a jet and a last-minute divert to Deer Valley when Scottsdale Tower ghosted them. We cover the final chapter of Hard Landing in the book club and reflect on takeaways from the book. In the mailbag, we talk about MU-2s doing angel work, the A&P to pilot career path, and the latest 737 LRD drama. Flight Advice: Should I keep my survey job or finish my CFI? Oh, and we may have created a secret pilot Freemason society while we were at it.

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Show Notes

1:21 Max’s Musings: Cutting the Line

12:48 Starlink Update

17:05 Southwest Changes

19:34 Hard Landing Book Club: Final Chapter

35:32 Carbon Cub Updates

39:36 Reviews & Comments

41:53 Mailbag

58:41 Flight Advice

 

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Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos by Thomas Petzinger Jr

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Move your airplane without breaking your back or the bank! Max said the Amigo AeroTow's affordable T1 tug has 'changed his hangar life'. Learn more about AeroTow's family of aviation tugs and see why its earning rave reviews from top 40 aviation podcast hosts around the globe. Use code "21five" at checkout for $100 off any AeroTow product!

--

Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

--

Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

--

Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"

The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

--

VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral Program

--

The 21.5 Podcast is supported by our friends at ProPilotWorld.com - The Premier Information & Networking Resource for Professional Pilots

--

Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.

The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.

In 1995, a team of aviation cowboys set out on a mission that sounds too crazy to be real: fly a WWII B-29 bomber out of the Arctic after 50 years of abandonment. But as guest Vernon Rich tells us, things did not go as planned. From rigging up fuel pumps with trash equipment to landing a Caribou with propane-inflated tires, this story has it all—engineering ingenuity, brutal cold, and a heartbreaking ending. Strap in for one of the wildest aircraft recovery stories ever attempted.

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Show Notes

0:00 Intro

3:05 Getting Recruited

16:58 Planning Phase

24:05 Starting the Mission

32:06 41 Days

55:38 Year Three

1:00:59 Go Time

1:12:10 Taking the Caribou Back

 

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Move your airplane without breaking your back or the bank! Max said the Amigo AeroTow's affordable T1 tug has 'changed his hangar life'. Learn more about AeroTow's family of aviation tugs and see why its earning rave reviews from top 40 aviation podcast hosts around the globe. Use code "21five" at checkout for $100 off any AeroTow product!

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

--

Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

--

Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"

The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

--

VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral Program

--

The 21.5 Podcast is supported by our friends at ProPilotWorld.com - The Premier Information & Networking Resource for Professional Pilots

--

Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.

The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.