Gender: A Wider Lens

22 — An Unexpected Gender Evolution: A Conversation with Lauren


Listen Later

“Lauren” is a 32-year-old lesbian who has moved with ease across the gender spectrum over the course of her lifetime. Lauren offers a positive story about how being gender non-normative and having a complicated gender experience can be a pleasant and interesting experience. Cautioning against the heavy and urgent discussions about medicalizing gender expression, Lauren wonders if we can become more playful and even joyful about gender?

Links:

Lauren’s Blog: Theanxiousskeptic.wordpress.com/

 

Extended Notes

  • A little bit about Lauren and her experience with gender.
  • The way our society is handling trans children is completely different from when Lauren grew up.
  • Lauren feels a bit betrayed by the LGBTQ community.
  • What was Lauren’s childhood like?
  • How did Lauren’s family deal with her and her older sister’s masculine gender?
  • Can you be gay and Mormon?
  • Lauren was always the good child and her older sister was the problem masculine child. So it threw everyone for a loop when they found out Lauren was a lesbian, and not her sister.
  • When Lauren dressed in drag, she felt much more comfortable in her own body.
  • Men’s clothing was just easier to understand and when Lauren took on a more butch persona, it was a lot easier for her to date.
  • Lauren was a butch lesbian for about 10 years before switching back to a more “feminine” look.
  • In Lauren’s mind, being butch is almost like a third gender.
  • At one point, Lauren identified as trans.
  • The trans community has really affected the way lesbians see themselves. Lauren knows several people in same-sex relationships who have identified as trans at one point in time in her friend group.
  • When it came to having children, how did Lauren and her wife decide who should have a child?
  • A lot of Lauren’s friends who were butch were transitioning, either to a more feminine persona or trans. And she felt like she could not grieve this sense of loss. She just had to be happy for her friends.
  • When random people were shouting slurs at Lauren and her wife, it only really started to bother her as she got older and was going to become a parent.
  • What’s it like being a mother?
  • Eleven-year-olds are being asked if they want to preserve their fertility. It’s crazy.
  • Lauren has gone through many different gender identities and went on to have children. She gets fired up and passionate when young children are forced to “choose.”
  • We have to think about the long-term well-being of children and teenagers first. Not our politics.
  • Can we be more playful with our gender? Why do we have to always pick a side?


This podcast is partially sponsored by ReIME, Rethink Identity Medicine Ethics:

Rethinkime.org


Learn more about our show: Linktr.ee/WiderLensPod




This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Gender: A Wider LensBy Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

  • 4.3
  • 4.3
  • 4.3
  • 4.3
  • 4.3

4.3

745 ratings


More shows like Gender: A Wider Lens

View all
Hidden Brain by Hidden Brain, Shankar Vedantam

Hidden Brain

43,661 Listeners

Pivot by New York Magazine

Pivot

9,739 Listeners

Pod Save America by Pod Save America

Pod Save America

87,996 Listeners

TRIGGERnometry by TRIGGERnometry

TRIGGERnometry

2,266 Listeners

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat by New York Times Opinion

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

7,243 Listeners

The Lila Rose Show by Lila Rose

The Lila Rose Show

2,610 Listeners

heretics. by Andrew Gold

heretics.

635 Listeners

Unpacking Israeli History by Unpacked

Unpacking Israeli History

1,227 Listeners

The Megyn Kelly Show by SiriusXM

The Megyn Kelly Show

40,613 Listeners

Honestly with Bari Weiss by The Free Press

Honestly with Bari Weiss

8,451 Listeners

Things Unseen with Sinclair B. Ferguson by Ligonier Ministries

Things Unseen with Sinclair B. Ferguson

1,564 Listeners

JULIE IN GENDERLAND by Julie Bindel

JULIE IN GENDERLAND

81 Listeners

Informed Dissent by LGB Courage Coalition

Informed Dissent

57 Listeners

Beyond Gender by Stella O'Malley, Mia Hughes, Bret Alderman

Beyond Gender

57 Listeners

This Isn’t Working by Tanya de Grunwald

This Isn’t Working

4 Listeners