On Episode 229 of You, Me, Empathy, Kate Spencer and I explore Kate’s undying love for Phish, the feeling of trying to sell our creative work during such a collectively traumatic time in our history, Kate’s delightful new romance novel, In a New York Minute, and why the romance genre can be a salve for grief and provide some momentary relief from the heaviness of the world.

CW: This episode contains conversation around death and loss. Recorded in April 2022.

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