What's up skater's? We'll make this quick.

The Southwest dudes (Ted S [the person who writes these notes] and Ryan)sat down with ASU professor and abolitionist Alan Gomez to discuss police and prison abolition strategies and the enduring carceral society we live in. This is a broad talk with a lot of branches so make sure you're ready for a ride.

Tommy Guerrero was kind enough to join us on a call to discuss the story beyond his now-iconic "End Racism" board from the '80s. (37:35)

Thank you to everyone for listening. We hope this helps.

Intro jam by Michael Kryger (@blogafonte)

Outro by Sean Bonnette of AJJ. Search any music platform or YouTube for AJJ. I suggest starting with "No More Tears," or "People II: The Reckoning"

Logo and Graphic Design by Michael Worful (@worful)

Here's a list of books and retailers to start or continue your interest in abolition:

https://www.akpress.org/

https://www.versobooks.com/

Ruth WIlson Gilmore's Golden Gulag:

https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520242012/golden-gulag

Adrienne Maree Brown's Emergent Strategy:

https://www.akpress.org/emergentstrategy.html

Angela Davis's Are Prisons Obsolete:

https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Angela-Davis-Are_Prisons_Obsolete.pdf

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete

Ear Hustle Podcast:

https://www.earhustlesq.com/