In this episode, Trevor speaks with lawyer and law professor, Jillian Rogin, about Canada's system of pre-trial detention and bail. Topics discussed include, judicial interim release, pre-trial detention, the "dangerous few", R. v. Gladue, why some are more likely to be denied bail than others, bail as a "low law" proceeding, the origins of bail, the use of sureties, grounds for denying bail, differences in how bail is applied across Canada, the efficacy of court imposed conditions, policing, colonialism and racism, restorative justice, and a need to listen to vulnerable populations.