In a very special episode, Fenn interviews New Zealand bedroom pop artist Pickle Darling aka Lukas Mayo about their latest album Laundromat. They talk about demystifying song-writing, working in retail, and sing the praises of a little known band called U2.

Then, Jack and Fenn break down three songs off Laundromat. They talk about being uncynical, finding community at the Wollongong laundromat during the NSW floods, conveying big ideas with in short form, making soup while listening to the It Follows soundtrack and much more. Fenn writes a (very short) song inspired by Pickle Darling.

go and listen to our album when it comes out at www.musicrules.bandcamp.com

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More Pickle Darling:

https://pickledarling.bandcamp.com/album/laundromat-2

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