Today, we have another duo even though we are joined by Timmy's Dog, Mae! Mae was a good girl the entire episode and enjoyed the conversation. We discuss Joe's recent experience at a bar in which the bartender seemed to lack any interest in his job. This sparks the discussion of why society is lacking any sort of pride in its work. It is one thing to learn and grow within your career or project, and then there is complete disinterest and lack of motivation. What are your thoughts?

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