"Tune in for a deep conversation about creativity, psychology, and artistic growth!"

What does real transformation take? In this episode of Jung at Harp, Deborah Henson-Conant and Kathleen Wiley explore how to truly let yourself change. They discuss the unconscious mind, emotional blocks, and the ways we keep ourselves stuck in our own “golden cages.” Through personal stories, music, and psychoanalysis, they unpack how deep change comes from connection, trust, and vulnerability.

This rich conversation reveals how creative practice, awareness, and even improvisation can help unlock growth. Whether you're feeling stuck or navigating change, you'll gain insight into why embracing discomfort is a powerful step toward living more fully.

Each episode in this series reflects one of the seven principles in Deborah’s Strings of Passion framework: Impulse, Structure, Character, Roles, Practice(s), Deconstruction, and Lift-Off.

Disclaimer: “There may be minor audio dropouts in this episode, but the conversation is heartfelt, deep, and inspiring.”