Between Two Worlds

25. Making Protestants Uncomfortable-- with Casey Trout on Becoming Orthodox (Part 2)

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Why did Casey join the Orthodox faith? Does he condone polyamory? All this and more on Casey's feedback episode from the earlier episode entitled "Out of the Ashes of Protestantism." 

Casey seeks to make people think and defend their conclusions. He is simply sharing the things that made him uncomfortable in his spiritual journey and how that pushed him to find new answers. If his thoughts tend to provoke, he encourages the pushback.  

Listener's Pushback:

  • Orthodox Christians don't think for themselves. They look to the interpretation of the church.
  • What place does personal faith have in Orthodoxy?
  • Often young believers in an orthodox faith know the church traditions, know the history, but can't articulate what the gospel is. 
  • What is Casey's definition of sin?
  • Things in Orthodoxy that Casey doesn't like? Praying to saints? Deification of Mary?

    • Casey's reasons for joining orthodoxy:

    • Credibility- How do I figure out which interpretations of the Bible are true? Orthodoxy has legitimacy that Protestant churches can't claim because they can trace their pastoral lineage back to people who knew Jesus himself. 
    • Finding Answers to Hard Questions- Casey described the frustration of going to people he is supposed to trust for his spiritual questions and finding multiple different interpretations. He says the Protestant world doesn't have a way to determine beliefs as heresy, whereas Orthodoxy does.
    • The Church- Need to have a personal relationship with Christ AND a personal relationship with the Church his body. To provide you with all the things you need for your experience of life with Christ. Namely the sacraments.  
    • The Sacraments- Protestant church, didn't provide confession in a way that Casey thought was meaningful. As well as the structure around Communion, Fasting as a Church on the Church calendar, and structure for worship.
    • Pray- The Protestant mind links prayer to worship. But Casey believes prayer is just talking to God. So you can "talk" to the saints as well and ask them for wisdom or guidance in the areas where that saint was saintly. Orthodoxy doesn't see a separation between the living and the dead. We are all in this together and helping each other run the race of life.

      • Other Topics:

      • God's Law vs Natural Law- Things that make you flourish in the natural world. Certain sexual desires might be fine in the natural law category, but God's law decrees against to know that we are obeying him. Such as circumcision. (Christians often want a neat natural reason for God's laws).
      • Polyamory- Does Casey condone polyamory? 
      • God's Design For Sexual Desires- the functional and symbolic role of marriage. How every man has polyamorous tendencies. Just cause you have desires doesn't mean you get to indulge them. It is important to find your deeper yes to combat the natural desires in you.

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        Original Release: 5/2/21

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