Ryan Nielsen of Tumult talks to Guy and Rene about leaving Apple to go indie, creating Hype, App Store vs. own store, remote vs. office, and dealing with Apple from the outside. (Part 2 of 2.)

25: Ryan Nielsen on Tumult and Hype

Debug is a conversational interview show about developing software and services, primarily for iPhone, iPad, Mac, and gaming. Hosted by Guy English and Rene Ritchie, it's all the great talk you get at the bar after the conference, wrapped up in convenient podcast form. Pull up a chair, hit play, join us.

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