This week Bernie interviews Stephanie and Rafe Grigar, hosts of Worst Foot Forward, as they share how their relationship and podcast grew out of deep, real-life conversations about healing. Stephanie describes her path from hairstyling and motherhood into psychology, neuroscience, and hypnotherapy, while Rafe traces his journey through faith, music, creativity, and therapeutic work that reshaped his sense of purpose. Together they discuss trauma, forgiveness, generational patterns, and parenting with honesty and grace, aiming to normalize therapy and offer listeners hope and practical perspectives for growth.

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/worst-foot-forward/id1852284178

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