Dr. Chris Fuzie, Ed.D., is a leadership and followership expert, author, and consultant redefining leadership through behavior-based models. As the owner of CMF Leadership Consulting and President of the National Leaderology Association, he challenges traditional paradigms with innovative concepts like the Liminal Leadership Model, where leading and following happen simultaneously. A retired Modesto Police Department leader with 28 years of service, he blends real-world experience with academic insights. Dr. Fuzie is the author of Because Why... Understanding Behavior in Exigencies, S.C.O.R.E. Performance Counseling: Save the Relationship, Change the Behavior, and Liminal Space: Reshaping Leadership and Followership. Passionate about empowering individuals and organizations, he delivers engaging, practical strategies for transformational leadership.

In this episode, Jason and Chris discuss:

• The interplay between leadership and followership in organizational success
• The role of the National Leaderology Association in certifying leadership professionals
• The concept of leaders as simultaneous followers and key leadership behaviors
• Strategies for managing change, restructuring teams, and reassigning tasks
• Establishing scalable, repeatable leadership patterns through behavioral tessellations

Key Takeaways: 

• The National Leaderology Association establishes rigorous standards for leadership professionals, ensuring a scientific approach to leadership studies.
• The interplay between leadership and followership is evident, highlighting the fluidity of authority in high-stakes situations.
• Integrity, commitment, and transparency are not just leadership qualities but essential behaviors for both leaders and followers to foster alignment toward a shared vision.
• Organizations can drive efficiency by embedding repeatable and scalable behavioral patterns across strategic, tactical, and operational levels, ensuring seamless execution.
• Successfully navigating transitions, whether due to resignations or role reassignments, requires managing change dynamics while addressing the fears and uncertainties of teams.

“The same behaviors and traits we want in leaders are the same ones we want in followers. It doesn’t matter what the position is—what matters is the behavior.”

 - Chris Fuzie

Connect with Chris Fuzie:

Website: https://www.cmfleadership.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-chris-fuzie-ed-d-m-a-ol-vl2-37587934/ 

Chris’s Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0D3KPCTN2/     https://www.amazon.com/Because-Why-Understanding-Behavior-Exigencies/dp/1544101120/ 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by Angelo Paul Tagama

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