Donna Wright brings over 30 years of leadership experience in the mortgage industry, having held senior roles at top financial institutions, including Wells Fargo and Bank of America. She began her career as an originator and rose to become a regional sales manager and national production manager, where she built a reputation for recruiting, motivating, and coaching high-performing teams. Known for driving revenue, building markets, and enhancing profitability, Donna has led organizations ranging from Fortune 500 companies to entrepreneurial ventures. With expertise in Six Sigma, start-up growth, and franchising, she is both a seasoned sales executive and successful business owner. Donna holds a BA in Economics from the University of Dallas and currently resides in Austin.

In this episode, Steve and Donna discuss:

• How mindset drives resilience and success in tough times
• The value of learning something new every day about people, business, and yourself
• Why surrounding yourself with the right people can shift your outlook and energy
• The value of transparency and honesty in leadership and relationships
• How working with a coach can accelerate growth and keep you accountable

Key Takeaways: 

• Mindset is more than actions—it reflects who you choose to be when adversity strikes, shaping both resilience and long-term success.
• Embracing the idea of being “so wrong for so long” opens the door to fresh perspectives and lasting growth.
• Even small acts of daily learning create momentum; over time, they keep you sharp, adaptable, and ready for change.
• Surrounding yourself with people who lift you higher is essential because their energy and encouragement can break negative cycles.
• A coach doesn’t just guide you—they challenge your blind spots and hold you accountable, helping you reach levels you couldn’t achieve alone.

“The most important thing that any of us could focus on is mindset and what we do to set our minds right, because if our mind's not right, the rest isn't really right.” - Donna Wright

Connect with Donna Wright:

Website: https://republicstatemortgage.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-wright-4b59827/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/donna.m.wright.37/ 

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Andrzej Cetnarski is an award-winning cyber governance, national security, and corporate strategist, named CEO of the Year by CEO Monthly Magazine. He is the Founder, Chairman, and CEO of Cyber Nation Central®, a global cybersecurity protocol and advisory firm for Boards and C-Suites, and Chairman of the CNCDO™ Network. A former U.S. Congressional staffer, Forbes Contributor, and Wall Street banker with over $7B in closed deals, he also serves on the Cyber Defense Advisory Council and the Global Tech Security Commission. Andrzej holds degrees from Harvard, Wharton, Penn, and the University of Chicago, and is the author of The CEO & Board Chair Cyber Manuscript, advancing executive-level cyber readiness worldwide.

In this episode, Steve and Andrzej discuss:

• How resilience and mindset shaped Andrzej’s path from immigrant to cybersecurity leader
• Why cybersecurity is more about culture and behavior than technology
• The fiduciary responsibility of boards and executives across physical, digital, and cyber domains
• The $5.8 trillion gap between cybercrime and security solutions and its impact on business
• Strategies for maintaining optimism and leadership in a high-stakes security world

Key Takeaways: 

• Cybersecurity is no longer just an IT problem—it’s rooted in culture, behavior, and leadership. True protection begins when executives set the tone and drive a company-wide mindset of security.
• Boards and executives may not realize it, but they already hold fiduciary responsibility for cyber readiness. Ignoring this duty exposes both their organizations and their personal legacies to unnecessary risk.
• With cybercrime revenues projected to soar past defenses, companies cannot afford to be passive. Proactive deterrence and resilience must be treated as strategic priorities for survival.
• Thriving in today’s volatile world requires more than technical skill. Entrepreneurs and leaders need resilience, disciplined routines, and strong mindsets to lead effectively under constant pressure.
• The future of cybersecurity lies in sovereignty—whether for individuals, businesses, or entire nations. Achieving this digital self-defense is the only path to lasting protection in an interconnected world.

“Whether you're an investor, a board director, an entrepreneur, or simply an executive, in a venture or in a corporation, you have a fiduciary responsibility now already existing over three organizations, the physical, digital, and the cyber secure.” - Andrzej Cetnarski

Connect with Andrzej Cetnarski:

Website: https://cybernationcentral.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrzejcetnarski/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ACetnarski 

Email:  [email protected] 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Rose Marie David is a seasoned mortgage industry leader with nearly 40 years of experience, recognized for building high-performing teams and driving extraordinary growth. She began her career as an underwriter and rose to become a broker/owner, top producer, and executive director, consistently closing over $100 million annually. Transitioning to executive leadership in 2010, she helped HomeStreet Bank achieve 400% organic growth and led Homebridge Financial Services through an acquisition with a 98% retention rate. Today, as Retail Sales Executive for CMG in the West, she has added $2B+ in annual volume and helped secure CMG’s #6 national ranking. A HousingWire Vanguard Award winner, she also serves as Chair of the Washington Mortgage Bankers Association.

In this episode, Steve and Rose Marie discuss:

• The role of gratitude and meditation in shaping leadership and daily focus
• Her personal journey from professional ballet training to mortgage banking
• Leadership lessons from decades of experience and industry change
• How authenticity, abundance, and detachment fuel effective leadership
• Guidance for newcomers: coaching, systems, and genuine care

Key Takeaways: 

• Starting the day with gratitude and meditation isn’t just a habit—it sets the tone for clarity, peace, and better choices throughout the day. Rose Marie shows how small practices can transform leadership presence.
• Her years of ballet training demanded discipline and rigor, and those traits later became the backbone of her resilience and success in finance and leadership.
• Trust and loyalty don’t come from titles; they come from authenticity and leading with an abundant mindset. Rose Marie’s career reflects how this approach inspires long-term followings.
• Success in mortgage banking is both an art and a science. Empathy and care matter just as much as technical knowledge and strong systems, and together they create consistent excellence.
• For those starting in the business, prioritizing learning, emotional intelligence, and genuine care for people is non-negotiable. These qualities separate the good from the great in this industry.

“When we are authentic about what we're doing and really there to serve and make a difference for people without any type of agenda or expectation… I really always felt first and foremost, what was important was to just be true to myself and my team and the people that I'm serving.” - Rose Marie David

Mentioned:

Books: Teach Your Mind to Change Your Brain by Sharon Begley 

Altered Traits by Daniel Goleman

Richard Rohr: The Center for Action and Contemplation

Connect with Rose Marie David:

Website: https://www.cmgfi.com/mysite/rose-marie-david/blog 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rose-marie-david-66b21018/ 

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Steve Multer is the founder of Steve Multer. Corporate Storytelling, a strategic brand messaging partner for Fortune and midsize organizations to maximize their connection with customers, partners, and media analysts. As a spokesman and keynote thought leader, Steve has crafted and delivered over 20,000 onstage and onscreen presentations for more than 150 global brands, including Cisco, Fujifilm, Siemens, HP, Panasonic, Bayer, Intel, and NTT Data.

He trains global C-suites and sales teams in winning communication methodologies, and he’s coached thousands of executive and industry speakers to increase impact through value, passion, and human connection. Steve's new book is ‘Nothing Gets Sold Until the Story Gets Told.’

In this episode, Jason and Steve discuss:

• Evolution of corporate storytelling: from 1990s trade shows to today’s Fortune 500 strategies
• Building audience connection on a human-first level before introducing products or services
• Common brand storytelling mistakes and practical ways to correct them
• The balance between passion, profitability, and knowing when to pivot
• Communication frameworks like the Flow of Content Hierarchy and the COACH State

Key Takeaways: 

• The most powerful business storytelling weaves together facts and human emotion, creating narratives that feel both credible and personal. When people can see themselves in your story, they are more likely to engage and trust your brand.
• Too often, companies begin with a product pitch or corporate message, missing the chance to first connect on a human level. Leading with empathy and understanding opens the door for your audience to actually hear your message.
• For startups, passion and storytelling fuel momentum, yet lasting success depends on reading the market and adjusting when necessary. Adaptability ensures the story continues to resonate as the business grows.
• Failure is not the end of the journey—it can be the reset button that clears away clutter and sparks stronger ideas. Each setback sharpens your ability to tell stories that connect more deeply.
• True communication thrives on authenticity and service. When leaders genuinely focus on serving others, business growth naturally follows as a byproduct of trust and connection.

“Trust yourself to tell a value story for the benefit of other people, and the minute you start doing it, you’ll be amazed at how much clearer and how much more formidable, solid, and successful your daily engagements and communications become, both personally and professionally.” - Steve Multer

Steve's 5 Paths to Passionate Storytelling FREE eGuide - Password: soldtold23

Connect with Steve Multer:

Websites: https://corporatestorytelling.com/ , https://stevemulter.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemulter/ 

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Are you prepared to lead with confidence when disruption strikes? In this episode, we share practical strategies for building leaders who can thrive in uncertain times. We explore why disruption is not a sign of failure, how vision and values provide stability, and the critical role of emotional intelligence in navigating change. You’ll also hear why creating safe opportunities for leaders to fail early builds resilience for high-pressure moments later. Whether you’re guiding a small team or an entire organization, this conversation delivers powerful insights to help you transform disruption into growth.

In this episode, Steve and Steve discuss:

• The reality of disruption in today’s organizations and why it’s unavoidable
• How dysfunctional communication and anxiety emerge during times of disruption
• The importance of returning to vision and values to guide teams
• Why developing emotional intelligence early prepares leaders for challenges
• Practical strategies for giving leaders agency and opportunities to grow

Key Takeaways: 

• Disruption should never be viewed as failure; it’s an inevitable part of business evolution, and organizations that acknowledge this reality are better positioned to adapt.
• When turbulence hits, leaders must rally their teams around a clear vision and core values, creating a stabilizing force that keeps everyone moving in the same direction.
• Poor communication and unmet expectations are common byproducts of disruption, and if left unchecked, they quickly snowball into organizational dysfunction.
• Emotional intelligence isn’t built overnight—leaders who cultivate it ahead of time are far more equipped to navigate uncertainty with calm and clarity.
• Allowing leaders to experiment and even fail in low-stakes environments early on fosters resilience, making them stronger and more confident when high-pressure challenges arrive.

“There's nothing wrong with you. You are going through a disruption. Your organization going through a disruption does not mean, in and of itself, that you have done anything wrong as a leader in your organization. That's the nature of doing business in 2025 in the world. Disruption happens, and that's why some organizations they'd rather be the disruptor than the disruptee. And that has its own problems, but you're going to be on either side of that equation. So that's just a natural byproduct of doing work in the world.” - Steve Longan

Connect with Steve and Steve:

LinkedIn: Steve or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Dr. Emma Sarro is a researcher at the NeuroLeadership Institute, where she translates cognitive and social neuroscience into practical strategies that help organizations improve leadership, collaboration, and innovation. Formerly a professor at Dominican College and New York University, she also conducted research at the Nathan Kline Institute. She earned her bachelor’s from Brown University and her PhD in neuroscience from NYU, focusing on sensory processing, brain plasticity, and the effects of early life trauma. At NLI, her work highlights how understanding and working within the brain’s capacity—while challenging it in the right ways—can boost creativity, trust, and team performance, all while reducing social threat responses and fostering meaningful growth.

In this episode, Steve and Dr. Emma discuss:

• The link between a growth mindset and improved performance
• How the brain’s plasticity fuels learning, adaptability, and resilience
• Practical strategies for fostering a growth-oriented environment in organizations
• Why moments of stillness and mind-wandering boost innovation and insight
• The impact of stress and cortisol on creativity, decision-making, and brain health

Key Takeaways: 

• Adopting a growth mindset actively redirects your brain’s resources toward setting and achieving goals, while easing the grip of fear-based, threat-focused thinking. This mental shift opens the door to greater creativity and resilience.
• Respecting your cognitive capacity isn’t just about avoiding overload—it’s about optimizing brain performance. Protecting your mental bandwidth helps you make sharper, more strategic decisions.
• Mind-wandering is a powerful tool for innovation. Stepping away from intense focus allows your brain to form new connections and unlock fresh, unexpected ideas.
• Chronic stress and prolonged cortisol levels act like roadblocks to creativity and problem-solving. Leaders who learn to manage stress effectively safeguard both their health and their innovative potential.
• Small, intentional changes—like adding the word “yet” to reframe challenges or regularly reflecting on mistakes—can gradually transform your mindset. These micro-adjustments often lead to long-term performance gains.

“Accepting that you can change and accepting that you can improve is completely different from accepting that you are, that you have a certain skill, and that whatever you put out is the best that you can do.” - Dr. Emma Sarro

Connect with Dr. Emma Sarro:

Website: https://neuroleadership.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-sarro-phd-in-neuroscience-4766784/ 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Beckie Moore is the Founder of Unlocked & Unlimited and an Executive Coach & Life Alchemist who specializes in 1:1 coaching for senior and mid-level leaders. A Professional Certified Coach (PCC) through the International Coaching Federation (ICF), Beckie brings seven years of coaching experience and over two decades of leadership across the Department of Defense, private sector, and active-duty military service. Her powerful toolkit includes certifications in the Hogan Assessment System, Integrative Enneagram Solutions iEQ9, EQ-i, and Corentus Team Coaching—equipping her to unlock leadership potential through deep analytical insight and transformative coaching methodologies. In addition to her own business, Beckie is also an executive coach for Rewire.

In this episode, Jason and Beckie discuss:

• Defining a Life Alchemist and improving environments through intention
• Applying the Three Centers of Intelligence: head, heart, and gut
• How internal vs. external processing styles impact leadership and team dynamics
• Common leadership blind spots and how self-awareness enhances effectiveness
• Real-life examples from her coaching work with the Department of Defense and corporate leaders

Key Takeaways:

• Self-awareness lays the groundwork for effective leadership, but it’s only half the equation. True impact comes when leaders also seek to understand how others think, feel, and operate.
• Many leaders instinctively lean on one primary intelligence center—head, heart, or gut. When the other two are neglected, it can create blind spots that weaken team trust and collaboration.
• Internal processors may appear hesitant, while external processors may dominate with rapid thoughts. Recognizing these styles—and naming them—helps teams align expectations and avoid miscommunication.
• Over-reliance on a single intelligence center creates imbalance: the analytical may seem cold, the empath may fear confrontation, and the instinctive may act prematurely. Balance requires awareness and intentional adaptation.
• Sometimes, the most powerful coaching move is to say nothing at all. Holding space with quiet presence can unlock clarity that words might otherwise crowd out.

“When you understand how you process information, you can give yourself the tools that you need in order to be the best that you can be.” - Beckie Moore

Connect with Beckie Moore:

Website: https://www.unlockedandunlimited.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beckie-moore/ 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

K’Lee Terrazas is the co-founder of Legal Lead Sharks, a performance-driven Google Ads agency helping law firms dominate their local markets. She’s also the creator of Intake EQ, an AI-powered voice agent system built on the belief that every missed call is a missed opportunity. With a sharp focus on ROI, lead conversion, and client acquisition strategy, K’Lee blends cutting-edge technology with marketing expertise to help law firms scale smarter, not harder.

In this episode, Jason and K’Lee discuss:

• The bold decision to niche down and focus solely on law firms
• The creation of Intake EQ to solve a costly, overlooked intake problem
• How AI voice agents outperform humans in lead capture and customer experience
• The importance of eliminating tasks and staying in your “zone of excellence”
• Book recommendations that shaped K’Lee’s leadership and business strategies

Key Takeaways:

• Niching down isn't just smart—it’s strategic. By serving one industry deeply, you establish credibility, build expertise faster, and become the go-to solution provider they trust.
• Intake EQ emerged as a response to a costly blind spot. In a field where a single missed call can mean losing a million-dollar case, automating that first point of contact is critical.
• Properly trained AI voice agents are no longer a novelty—they’re a competitive advantage. These systems can mimic human tone, pivot smoothly during conversations, and outperform most human staff in speed and accuracy.
• You don’t scale a business by doing more—you scale by doing less of the wrong things. Delegating low-ROI tasks and eliminating time-wasters allow leaders to focus on vision, growth, and innovation.
• Real growth comes from mastering your zone of excellence. Instead of trying to juggle everything, build a support system that lets you double down on what only you can uniquely deliver.

“You are your brand, and showing up matters because people don't do business with your name or your logo—they do business with you. And so, in 2025, I stepped out from behind the curtains and started putting myself out there, like I tell my clients to do.” - K’Lee Terrazas

Connect with K’Lee Terrazas:

Websites: https://legalleadsharks.com/ , https://intake-eq.com/ , https://paylynxglobal.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/k-lee-terrazas-9366b31b4/ 

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Patrick Ungashick brings over 30 years of experience helping business owners and leadership teams maximize company value. He is the CEO of NAVIX Consultants, an exit strategy firm that has guided more than 500 owners through successful exits. Patrick is also a partner in three other ventures spanning private equity, investment banking, and wealth management.

In this episode, Jason and Patrick discuss:

• How leadership lessons from D-Day apply to today’s business challenges
• Why company culture is the starting point for organizational success
• Common pitfalls business owners face when planning their exits
• The importance of building a great team before building a great company
• How leaders can leverage AI and technology without fear

Key Takeaways:

• Historical events like D-Day offer more than just stories—they reveal enduring truths about leadership under pressure. When applied to today’s business environment, these lessons can guide leaders through complex challenges with clarity and purpose.
• Strong companies don’t build strong teams—the reverse is true. Exceptional leaders know that investing in people first sets the foundation for long-term success.
• Exit planning isn’t just for the end—it's a strategic mindset that should begin early. Waiting too long can limit your options and reduce the value you've built.
• A business that relies entirely on its owner is a fragile one. True sustainability comes when systems and teams can operate smoothly without constant owner involvement.
• Rather than fearing disruption, top leaders lean into it. They treat tools like AI and emerging technologies as allies, using them to sharpen strategy and strengthen team performance, even amid market noise.

“I think we’re unknowingly, unintentionally, accidentally misinformed about what it means to be an effective leader. Many of us believe our job is to build a great company—but that’s a mistake. The real job of a great leader is to build a great team, and the great team builds the great company.” - Patrick Ungashick

Connect with Patrick Ungashick:

Website: https://www.patrickungashick.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickungashick/ 

Patrick’s Books: https://www.patrickungashick.com/#books 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Chris Prefontaine is the Chairman and Founder of Smart Real Estate Coach®, a 4x best-selling author, podcast host, and 3-time Inc. 5000 honoree. Through his Wicked Smart® Community, he’s helped investors across North America close hundreds of real estate deals — all without using their cash or credit. After weathering 9/11, the 2008 crash, and COVID, Chris rebuilt a resilient business model built to thrive in any market. Today, his mission is to empower driven individuals to become confident, "Wicked Smart" investors — no matter where they’re starting from.

In this episode, Jason and Chris discuss:

• How Chris rebuilt his real estate business after the 2008 crash using “terms” deals
• What does it mean to buy real estate using creative financing strategies
• Three powerful methods: Owner Financing, Lease Purchase, and Subject-To deals
• Why market conditions don’t matter when you learn how to pivot with strategy
• Chris's “Three Paydays” system and how it creates consistent cash flow

Key Takeaways: 

• Buying real estate “on terms” gives investors the ability to acquire properties without relying on traditional financing. No credit checks, large down payments, or bank approvals are required, making it a powerful strategy for anyone starting from scratch.
• Principal-only payments through owner financing offer a smart path to build equity fast. This approach increases monthly cash flow and minimizes interest expenses, especially valuable in today’s high-rate environment.
• Success in any market comes down to knowing where to focus and being able to pivot. When one lead source dries up, there's always another list or niche to explore—what matters is adaptability.
• A committed and aligned team can be the difference between staying stuck and scaling a business. Chris credits his company’s growth to surrounding himself with people who complement his strengths.
• Long-term commitment trumps quick wins. Choosing a niche you believe in and sticking with it—without distractions—for 3 to 7 years is what ultimately creates lasting success.

“Pick a niche, pick someone you can get behind, and then put the blinders on for three to seven years. That’s where the real breakthroughs happen—when you stop chasing shiny objects and stay committed.” - Chris Prefontaine

Grab Your Free Books from Chris: https://www.wickedsmartbooks.com/jason 

Free Real Estate Masterclass by Chris: https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass 

Connect with Chris Prefontaine:

Website: https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprefontaine/ 

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.