Are you ready to uncover what truly drives lasting change—for yourself, your team, or your entire organization? In this episode, we dive into the powerful RAMPS framework, exploring how results, action, mindset, process, and system come together to spark meaningful transformation. Learn why behavior change alone isn’t enough, how mindset shifts accelerate progress, and why understanding the broader system you’re part of is essential. Whether you're a leader, coach, or someone navigating growth, this conversation offers a practical, insightful guide to intentional, sustainable change.

In this episode, Steve Scanlon, Steve Longan, and Jason discuss:

• The foundational questions driving personal and organizational change: “Do people change?” and “How?”
• The decade-long development of RAMPS — a comprehensive framework for change
• The metaphor of the Isle of Tortuga as a lens for understanding change and transformation
• How mindset, action, and systems interact to facilitate sustainable growth
• Why prescriptive methods often fall short and how RAMPS respects individual differentiation

Key Takeaways: 

• Lasting change is possible, but it requires a dual focus: honoring the unique journey of the individual while also considering the system they operate within. Ignoring either side risks an incomplete transformation.
• The RAMPS framework—Results, Action, Mindset, Process, System—offers a fluid, practical structure for navigating positive change. It’s designed to be comprehensive yet adaptable across diverse contexts and leadership levels.
• Too often, people attempt change through sheer willpower or behavior tweaks, only to stall out. Without addressing mindset, those efforts rarely stick or scale.
• You don’t need to start at the beginning to benefit from RAMPS. Whether you're targeting action, mindset, or results, the model is built to meet you where you are, while still guiding you through the full arc of transformation.
• The impact of change doesn’t end at work. When someone grows through the RAMPS process, the benefits often ripple into their home life, relationships, and broader community.

“Mindset goes beyond behavior modification — we can’t help people change how they act until we change how they think.” - Steve Scanlon

Connect with Steve and Jason:

LinkedIn: Jason or Steve

Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking 

Email: [email protected]

Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama

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