Every month we host conversations with people who are leaders in the digital technology and communications space. Some months we might be talking to them about new tech opportunities, or other weeks about developing as a leader in this fast changing environment.

This month for our 53rd episode, I spend time talking with Paul James was appointed Secretary for Internal Affairs and Chief Executive for Te Tari Taiwhenua Department of Internal Affairs in 2018. And he also holds the role of Government Chief Digital Officer (GCDO) where he is responsible for digital leadership across government agencies.