The Human Edge Show

26: How to Be a True Leader, Not a Boss with Nisha Clark & Campbell Such


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Join us for another episode of The Human Edge Show.

The podcast dedicated to helping technical experts become wonderful leaders.


This week: How to Be a True Leader, Not a Boss with Nisha Clark, CIO at Abano Healthcare.

The Human Edge Show's focus is to help new leaders and managers successfully make the biggest transition in their careers: The transition from ‘doing stuff’ to ‘leading and managing people’.

We call it “Crossing the Doing to Leading Chasm”.

The early-stage steps we take as new managers and leaders are like crossing a minefield.

How can we get across safely and avoid the landmines?


This podcast aims to:

✅ Give you a metal detector to help you identify and defuse those landmines

✅ Provide you with practical ideas, techniques, and tools to guide you through this tumultuous and challenging time.

✅ Help you more quickly and easily level up your capability and confidence.

So, you can get moving quickly and positively … much more like a poised leopard and much less like a nervous meerkat.


Episode Highlights:

00:00 - Introduction of The Human Edge Show

01:03 - Introducing Nisha Clarke

02:12 - How Nisha Masks Her Introversion

04:50 - The Impacts of Introversion on Being a Leader

07:13 - The Early Leadership Experiences That Taught Nisha

10:15 - Recognizing the Potential She Had as a Leader

13:18 - Enabling Communication With Your Colleagues

15:51 - The Epiphany of Being a Leader Rather Than a Boss

18:39 - The Motherly Aspect for Nisha's Leadership

22:06 - Learning to Navigate Work During the Pandemic

26:40 - How to Cope With the Stress of Your Leadership Role

30:35 - Developing the Circle of Trust Over Time

33:28 - Staying in Touch to Get What's Going on Below

36:24 - Understand the Capability of a New Leader

41:29 - Why You Want to Move Forward and Lead


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