Craig Elsten and Chris Reed return for episode #260 of Crossing Streams, taking on perhaps the TV event of 2025 in Vince Gilligan's new series, Pluribus, for Apple TV. In the (short) non-spoiler zone the guys offer their general thoughts on the series and on Gilligan's talent. Then in the spoiler zone, a look at everything which has made the first three episodes of Pluribus so riveting, thought-provoking and funny. Both guys said after recording this was their favorite podcast of the year, so please enjoy!

SUBJECT TIME CODE MENU

:30 Intro/housekeeping
NON-SPOILER ZONE
3:40 Opening thoughts on Pluribus from both hosts
10:15 Vince Gilligan is in his bag and a master of his craft
SPOILER ZONE
13:15 The first episode of Pluribus is an all-timer
15:15 The art of “show don’t tell”
19:00 Rhea Seehorn’s performance as Carol
24:00 Does Carol have a drinking problem? Is she a reliable narrator?
29:00 The surprising humor of Pluribus
37:00 Is The Joining a metaphor for Heaven?
41:30 Is The Joining a utopia or are The Others concealing a lot still?
45:00 the use of the countdown/count-up clock as a storytelling device
55:30 What We’re Watching

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