Elizabeth and I discuss her new independent consulting business (Elizabeth Grim Consulting LLC) and how she meets clients where they are, builds capacity and relationships, and leans into her values in the work. We also discuss Brene Brown's values exercise and another version of the exercise as a card deck, how we've embraced new ways of thinking about the world, and reporting in evaluation.

Music by Matt Ingelson, http://www.mattingelsonmusic.com/

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