Patrick Wyman is a historian and host of the Tides of History podcast. He grew up in eastern Washington doing a lot of construction & farm jobs. Hope you have as much fun listening as we did comparing notes on rural bosses throughout the ages.

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Books, people, websites, & other things mentioned in this interview

Roman grain barges: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cura_Annonae

Chinese dynasty headed by a peasant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Gaozu_of_Han

Accounting for Slavery: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674972094

Environmental historian of early America: Keith Pluymers at Illinois State University

http://ilstu.academia.edu/KeithPluymers

Tides of History: https://wondery.com/shows/tides-of-history/